Max Shred Xtreme Antler Review – Do They Really Work?
By: Rob MillerFact Checked On: 4-3-2020
It’s no secret that guys across the country will do practically whatever it takes to get ripped and shredded, even dabbling in illegal drugs to get the body they want. A recent blog post I saw on a supposed “men’s health” site called Men’s Life and Health reports that you don’t need to revert to steroids to get massive, but instead, you can turn to 2 supplements celebrity’s have been taking ripped, lean physiques.
What supplement stack could they possibly be talking about? None other than Max Shred and Xtreme Antler, 2 over the counter supplements that apparently the companies of which are handing out free bottles of the stuff. I mean, why would a company want to turn a profit when they can just hand the stuff out. Well, you’re about to thank me for saving you from the scam that these products turn out to be!
What is Max Shred and Xtreme Antler?
According to this blog post I’m reading, Max Shred (or Maximum Shred as it’s referred to on their official site) is a all natural pre-workout supplement that is designed to get you stronger, bigger, and more cut. It also apparently helps you gain more muscle from workouts, boosts your energy, burns fat, and gives you massive looking pumps, all within a few weeks!
We tried finding an official ingredients list, but there is nothing listed on the Max Shred website. My guess is that it contains some sort of L-Arginine based on their descriptions, and maybe even a stimulant or 2. It would be a little more helpful to determine whether or not there is the potential for side effects if we knew what the ingredients were, but i digress.
Xtreme Antler works very similarly according to their official site, boasting extreme gains in muscle growth, supercharging your sex drive, and improving memory and mental skills. Just like Max Shred, the potential side effects from the ingredients in Xtreme Antler are not mentioned, but in this case I think it is safe to assume that probably the only ingredient in it is Deer Antler Velvet, or IGF-1.
Deer antler velvet is quite the controversial substance (similar to Ligandrol), and was actually used by Ray Lewis from the Baltimore Ravens to help recover from an injury prior to the Superbowl. (source: 1)
The interesting thing to note about Deer Antler Velvet is that, while it’s banned by major sports leagues, the NCAA, and High school athletics, it is NOT detected in urine tests. The only way to see if your using it is by doing a blood test.
So Does Using Max Shred And Xtreme Antler Really Work?![xtreme antler and maxshred]()
Most likely not, at least not the way they say it will. First off, the article you think your reading on a men’s health article is really an advertisement. How do I know this? Because if I try to click on any of the links on their page, it directs me to an offer for either Max Shred or Extreme Antler.
Hmmmm, yeah, you would be quite right if you are thinking that is a little bit fishy because quite frankly, it is nothing but fishy.
Red flag #1.
Second, the page is littered with comments, which apparently were all posted today. Of course all of the comments about Max Shred and Xtreme Antler are positive, with guys raving about it’s effectiveness. I tried to leave a comment, and wouldn’t you know it, it’s not going through. It’s not even taking me to a page that says the comment is awaiting moderation.
Red Flag #2.
Also, I noticed that there is no such magazine titled “Men’s Life and Health”…
Red Flag #3.
Finally, and this is the biggest issue, is the fact that the only way you can get these supplements is by signing up for a free trial. “But what could be the problem with that?? I like free stuff!”, you’re probably saying right now.
Well, here’s the thing…you’re NOT actually getting a free sample of the product. When you go to order, they ask for a credit card to help pay for shipping. Sounds fair, until you undoubtedly miss the fine print stating that you can use the product for 14 days, after which they are going to charge you a collective $189 for “testing” out the products.
What’s even worse is the fact that, if you don’t cancel within those 14 days, they WILL continually send you the product and keep billing your credit card until you cancel. This “deceptive marketing practice” has been used for years, and I have been seeing these miracle combo ads popping up all over the internet, especially social networks.
Some of these combo’s include Blackline Elite and Refuel Extreme, and Nitro Shred and Alpha Fuel XT, just to name a few.
That doesn’t necessarily mean that all free trials are scams. There’s plenty of reputable sellers providing free samples, including Nugenix, Instaflex, and Optimind, all of whom will give you a refund if you ask for one.
Lastly, Here is probably the only credible review I found from someone who has ACTUALLY used Extreme Antler and Maximum Shred, check out his review below:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJFoWOo_3X0]
In short, his experience can be summarized by the following statements:
- It isn’t working for me
- I’m taking 5 capsules, while they say to take 3
- It tastes like shit, similar to talcum powder
- It’s pathetic, it does NOT work
- They sign you up for a subscription service (which I already mentioned above)
- Xtreme Antler – The only thing I’ve noticed is that my hunger level has increased, but not in the day. He says he wakes up at 2 am, completely starving.
- Don’t buy them, they’re both a waste of money.
No a very flattering review, especially for a product claiming as much as it does.
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Questions We’ve Received About Max Shred and Deer Antler
I was researching max shred and deer antler on the internet and came across your review.It’s the only ‘real’ review of the products I could find, and I definitely won’t be ordering them now, thanks to your review.
Aside from a post work-out shake are there any other real supplements on the market you would recommend for before or after a session at the gym?
Lee Gallagher, UK
Answer:
Anyways, as far as supplements go, I would suggest a pre-workout supp called Nitrocut, and a T booster called Testofuel. They are both designed to start working in about a week, and will give you the best results. Here are my reviews:
Nitrocut – https://www.supplementcritique.com/nitrocut-review-our-1-pre-workout-supplement
Testofuel – https://www.supplementcritique.com/my-personal-testo-fuel-review-and-results
Rob Miller, SupplementCritique.com
My Results With Max Shred and Extreme Antler
Since this particular post has received alot of traffic over the last few months, I thought it would only be fair to give Max Shred and Extreme Antler a try and see if it really works. I ordered a 3 months supply of each and started taking it about 1 month ago, and I have to say I’m quite disappointed.
Not only did I NOT see any insane results / gains in muscle, I honestly felt sick after taking this stuff. I didn’t notice it for the first few days, but towards the end of the first week I started to feel like I was coming down with cold / flu like symptoms. I was unsure as to whether or not the Maximum Shred and Deer Antler were the cause, so I just stopped taking it for about a week and within a few days started to feel normal again.
I restarted taking the supplements and, once again, that feeling of sickness started to return. This convinced me wholeheartedly that the supplements must have been the cause. After about 2 weeks of feeling like shit I had enough…I stopped taking them and trashed the rest. No effects whatsoever.
My Recommendation
It’s highly recommended that you don’t order Max Shred and Xtreme Antler for the reasons listed above. Is stacking supplements, specifically a pre-workout booster and deer antler spray, worth it? Absolutely! But, there are plenty of other products out there on the market that will leave you with better results, at a far cheaper price.
Some of you may be getting to this page a bit late, and have already ordered it. My suggestion to you is to contact BOTH companies as quickly as possible to help avoid the headaches and financial strain that these 2 products will ultimately cause you. If you need specific help just leave a comment below and I’ll try to help you out in any way I can.
Have You Used Max Shred and Xtreme Antler? Leave Your Review Below!
References:
1. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/02/01/ray-lewis-mitch-ross-deer-antler-spray/1885081/
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Ripped off !
Complete scam ! I received so called free sample of xtreme antler and maximum shred. Garbage ! Then as soon as I received it I cancelled like the fine print reads. Well doesn't another two bottles show up for an additional $198 Canadian charged to my card ! I snapped and they said of course it's cancelled now and of course what else shows up but two more bottles for a total of $400 ! I'm pissed they are scams don't get fooled ! I'm still fighting this one!
9 out of 11 people found this review helpful.
deer antler n maximum shred
I've been taking these 2 products for around 2 months now so...with all of these comments there BS these products do work and they do help you gain lean muscle and also burns fat, gives you a great pump you get a tighter feeling when you flex and you actually start to feel the results within around less than a week I've gained over 15 lbs of muscle over the 2 months....so whatever you guys wan to think you can look me up on facebook I've also taken these supps around a yr ago which is my profile picture... that was after a couple weeks... i've been working out all my life basically i'm 26 atm ive tryed so many supplements and these products do work! Thanks
8 out of 10 people found this review helpful.
Max Shred - Xtreme Antler
Started using Maximum Shred tonight for the first time. I took one pill (a third of a serving) before leaving for the gym. When I got to the gym, I felt sort of uneasy and had a little stomach discomfort. After beginning my workout, this discomfort subsided and I had a phenomenal workout. I realized that the supplement isn't so much of a muscle building supplement as much as just a different, intense preworkout. Definitely something that could be found at Vitamin Shoppe or GNC for a 10th of the cost. I enjoyed using the product and will most likely finish out the 30 day free trial, but will probably not continue to take this supplement. Most of my workout was stimulated by the fact that I was trying something new. Almost like a placebo effect. Granted, it did make me workout harder and made me want to workout harder... But, that was all in my head. Not worth $180 or however much they're scamming for this shit. In conclusion, any actual "gains" are and will be a result of anything but Maximum Shred. Definitely not what it claims to be.
4 out of 5 people found this review helpful.
Not bad
Although I felt disappointed that the free trial turned into an ongoing order; I managed to negotiate a 50% discount on the max shred. It has given me more strength in the gym - much like creatine, and I can lift more for longer. I don't think it is placebo and I was realistic about the products claims. After the gym I am looking more toned. Not worth the price at face value.
5 out of 7 people found this review helpful.
another scam
I got both cause I was doing the gym 4-5 times a week trying to lose some weight. I got the sense it was a scam but went for it anyway. Once I got my order I started taking the shred before the gym, but it just made me feel sick to my stomach. I'd get home do a protein shake and the antler. I looked a bit closer and realized they were going to charge my card, so I called my bank and had my cc canceled before they could. Stopped using it due to the feeling sick, and it kept me up at night even when I worked out first thing in the morning.
4 out of 5 people found this review helpful.
Thanks for the reviews
I filled out the free trial stuff an just closed out the page when it brought me to the cheap shipping fee wanting my card info. Then I Get an email now there tryin to make me a offer to only pay half shipping $2LEANdot95. It sounded to good to be true but I sent an email back cause I was smart enough to read the fine print to cancel within 14 days so I asked if I did pay the cheap shipping an canceled within the 14 days would I be charged anything eles? An they were beating around the bush makin it sound all peachy king an real persistent on wanting my to buy the month trial an can tell it's a skam. Thank you all for the info. I'm lucky I didn't order anything yet so I'm relived and trust me there's way better more healthier products to give you the same results.
1 out of 1 people found this review helpful.
trickster marketing!
The first red flag is the site is difficult to exit. I did not start using the product as I was on a special medical diet and didn't want to confuse results. The $87.47 charge came and I called for refund and they had more hoops than a circus act! They have 3 different prompts just to deal with the returns! She tried to beg off with a half refund, and when I asked to speak to a supervisor, she put me on hold and then said it would be an hour or so because they were ALL on a conference call! I couldn't get a word in edgewise, but she finally allowed for a return of the unopened product that would take 14 days plus 3-5 days to credit my account. Dealing with these folks is like juggling cats and cactus!
1 out of 1 people found this review helpful.
I've been using just the max shred, I didn't get the deer antler, and it actually has increased my muscle tone a lot since I've been using it. It really does work. I never even canceled the order and I never got another bottle or was billed anymore which I find kinda weird. I guess I got a get out of jail free card. Buy uh anyway, side effect wise I can tell you something important though. After about a month of using it and finishing the bottle, I went through withdrawal. I would just randomly throughout the day feel intoxicated for no reason. Thats the only way I can explain it honestly. Like I felt high or drunk. And I would get strange sweat attacks and just feel like Shit in general. So altogether, the max shred works. It does what it promises actually. But if you ever stop taking it, you got about 4 days of withdrawal to go through
1 out of 1 people found this review helpful.
Beware
This is to let you know that what they advertised is not true. I tried because it says its free as a sample for me as a consumer to try. But without my knowledge my account was deducted with a certain amount that is almost a hundred dollars . Its my second time i tried for a sample . Once they got your visa card number they got the chance to deduct without your concent so beware consumers.
It's nothing to call home about
I started this stuff today and it seems alright I have a huge history on supplements for thE past 6 years and it's definetly no something to pay for you do a trial for a months the worth of daily and cancel immediately to avoid further fees whether it be your card or "membership" I'd say go for it just be smart. I feel what your really paying for is the little sheet of paper with a website reference and a workout regimen which is a plus. Do as far as he product goes it's alright the workout schedule I give an alright review I'm actually adding it to my insanity schedule just for laughs and I'm stacking he supplements on top of what I have already so for me it's no skin off my back.
DISAPPOINTED IN ALL SENSE. SCAM!!!
The product caused dizziness and heart beating was very strong however my boyfriend didn’t feel the effects of the product as expected. We live in Australia and the product took ages to arrive, after few days of arrival and because we did not see the results as reported on the website I called the customer service to cancel the membership and was not expecting to be charged for that. I put an order through on 10/10 and the product arrived at the end of the month almost at the end of the trial period. I called again the customer service and the attendant was rude and said she could not do anything for me as it passed the time to request a refund even though I requested a cancellation 2 months ago. This is really unfair and completely against the law in Australia. I have been trying samples from other companies and all trials start from the date of arrival of product!! SCAM.
seeing some results
So I've been taking this for about a month now and I think it is working not massive gains but on the other hand it could come down to the fact Ive been training a lot harder now I have something to motivate more. I rang and told them the shipment was late and they extended my actual trial period. and haven't been charged anything addional yet.
Trial
i have only been on it for 2 weeks and, the hunger is gone, i do feel hungry, but not like before, or is it just the will power, i do feel more energy and exercising goes a bit more now, but not sure if it is from the maximum shred or just my will power. I have seen my stomach shrink and 1 bump of the 6 pack on my upper stomach abs, but two weeks is just not long enough for an honest result. And lost a big of weight. Will post after 4 weeks, i have extended the package to another 30 days.? You need to apply exercise to see some sort of result i guess.
Alright just spoke with customer service i believe is named sarah trying to glue me to this purchase but I chose to cancel. They can't cancel the order or cancel the auto billing until two days after receiving it in the mail. And in order to successfully cancel you will have to return the products.
Cancel your cards
I recently ordered the Maximum Shred and Xtreme Antler combo. It was a sale that offered both for only the cost of shipping. The catch is if you do not call to cancel your trail membership they will charge you full listing price ($170 or so). And most people call to cancel and have to go through an hour phone call in which the sales rep try's to convince you to finish the tryout period. And then after the 14 day period they will charge you unless you call back the 2nd time. Easy way around this. Pay for the shipping, receive products, and call your bank and cancel the card. Your bank will gladly send you a replacement usually free of charge and you don't have to deal with the harassing sales reps. So I received both products for under $10.00 and about 30 minutes of my time all together. As for the actual product I think I will do some more research before using them.
They Got Me....
Hey, I was one of the victims to fall for the free trial sample. I got it in the mail and was prepared to start using both products, but I soon found out what happens when you read the fine lines. I got paid on the first and before I could do anything I realized there was $87 and $79 taken out of my account. Well they said if I wanted to cancel everything that I would also need to return both bottles empty or not. So all in all the all thing is a bad idea.
Maximum Shred sucks
I order a trial bottle of the Maximum Shred and attempted to cancel my trial subscription before I got charged. They were very insistent on me keep the product and tried to talked me into keeping my 14 day trial period. I told them I wanted to cancel subscription and would still call back and give a review but they weren't having it. They wanted me to keep subscription. I decided to return product without trying. Why would you send a 30 day supply and only give a 14 day trial period?
That really helped me alot! I was about to put my card number in, card in hand then i was a little concerned about the testosterone levels and you helped me prevent a scam. Thanks!
trial is a scam
I ordered my bf the two trial bottles. It was only about ten bucks for both, i did read the fine print to make sure i didnt get ripped off. It said as long as you cancel before the first 14 days then u will not be put on the automatic bill list. So once we received the package we called to cancel....we if we wanted to cancel we will have to mail the bottles back. If we dont mail them back after 14 days we have to pay full price for the trial bottles. My bf asked "how can i try something and know it works in 14 days and if u at all want to cancel u have to give it back" . So now im stuck mailing this atuff back and not even trying it, and paying 20 bucks to ship it. Biggest rip off ever. Retards!
maximum shred nearly killed me
Hi all so I was looking for sample to try of some supplements for pre work out to see what I liked and I came across this and was like what the he'll let's give it a try so I ordered it after paying the 3.95 as i live in Australia they charge a dollar more for some reason anyway I received it 4 days ago I was very skeptical to try it as the active in vole 10 my of caffeine As well as arginine alpha-ketoglutarate, taurine, beta alanine.these are the active ingredients all sound okay well no there not so I took 2 pills as recommended well they recommend 3 but I thought 3 was a bit much at the caffeine content is so high but more about what happened after I used maximum shred so I went to they gym warmed up then started working out and with in 30 minutes I was at a 10 bum heart rate and went white as a ghost I was told but have just got out of hospital the doctors have said I was to have my heart rate any higher I could have died now they where very surprised a young guy like me who is 21 had such a high heart rate now I am normally in the Normal heart rate range I would not recommend it to anyone it is a scam they are currently running tests on one of the pills at some labs where I live to see what really is in this product as it is not approved by any recognized orginsation such as FDA witch it says on the bottle in the fine print would never order a free trial again from a shady orginsation such as the owners of the crap but that's all I have to say on this Do NOT BE FOOLED BY THEM LIKE I WAS. Also Dr's recommend not using as it is a very unsafe product.
xtremedeerandtler&maxshred
after a week and a half of using it, i've noticed i've been getting headaches every day, they advertise that after a week or 2 you will get better sleep, i've been finding it harder to get to sleep than ever for myself. idk if its this causing my headaches but it makes me wonder considering it started after i started using xtreme deer antler and max shred. i also feel hotter than normal, sweating all the time, and can't get comfortably cool. i appreciate your review and i hope my comment will be added to this review so no one else has these issues.
Just ordered maximum shred nd xtreme antler 2days ago I just reviewed it in mail 2 day ny ideas
0 out of 1 people found this review helpful.
Max shred and dear antler
So I read this article right after I had already ordered, took your advice and tried to cancel my order. They refused to cancel it until after the first shipment has arrived. Can they do that? They say it is because I need to be able to ship it back to them. When they asked why I wanted to cancel I referenced your article and another I read right after from Md. Journal about dear velvet and the lady on the other line started argue with me. This has all takin place with in 20min of havering ordered there product. Headache, man I'm already there.
0 out of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Will this make me fail a drug screen? -Kenny
It shouldn't, but you should bring a bottle label just in case.- Rob
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Do I use xtreme antler spray before or after my workout? -Elizabeth
I haven't tested it myself. You'd have to follow the instructions on the bottle.- Rob
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I bought this for myself was wondering if females can take this or can you recommend something for woman. Thanks -Harry
It's safe for women, but I don't recommend this kind of free trial product. You would do better with the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack.- Rob
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I do not recommend this product or supporting this business.
They are safe for women at the same dose as men, but I wouldn’t recommend them as effective for anyone. If you let me know what your goals are, I can recommend a supplement or stack with a great fit for you.
I haven’t tried it personally, but we have an informational review you can check out here: https://www.supplementcritique.com/leptiburn-review/
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I’d really like to be a part of group where I can get responses from other knowledgeable individuals
that share the same interest. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
Kudos!
For talk about workout issues, I’d go to the forums at Bodybuilding.com. For male enhancement issues, PEGym forums are helpful.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I need something to help me. If you know of anything, let me know.
I am 43 male 5’10 and 130lbs
You might benefit from a testosterone booster, like Testofuel. They tend to increase energy without the use of stimulants. I would also recommend that you get a full night’s sleep each night, and some exercise each day. It can be cardio or it can be some light resistance training. Either way, exercise will increase your energy. Of course, you’ll want to check with your doctor before starting any supplements.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
My guess is that you signed up for a free trial, which automatically signed you up for monthly shipments. They call it a free trial, but the monthly autoshipment plan is only talked about in the fine print.
Unfortunately, supplementcritique.com is a review website. You’ll have to contact Max Shred and Xtreme Antler directly.
The number for Maximum Shred is 1-800-622-4871. For Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-635-5652.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Great site, amazing information, thank you.. all signed up with your book, quick question though. I was curious about the max shred and xtreme antler.. got it, got the scam, got 50% reduced, and am in the first trial period now.
I will probably be cancelling tomorrow morning, but, now that I do have the product, would you have recommendations as to when I should take them? it shows 3 max shred and 2 antler a day.. I’ll probably be looking to cut that down on the shred, as i’m not a huge fan of caffeine, but would 1 shred in morning pre-workout, and then at lunch make sense? and then for antler, is it a post workout? i would have that after my morning workout and then again.. when? *for those of us too curious to just dump it all
Cheers!
My experience with these two was awful. I wouldn’t recommend you use them at all.
But if you do, yeah, stick with 2 Max Shred early in the day and 2 Xtreme Antler sprays at night. You can start there, and if you need to change it up a little after you get a sense of what it does, that would be fine.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
The first thing you do is give them a call. The number for Maximum Shred is 1-800-622-4871, and for Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-635-5652. Tell them you’ve sent them emails and that you want to cancel. If you still can’t reach them, call your credit card company and tell them you no longer want to accept charges from these guys.
It won’t get you your money back, but it can stop you from incurring any further charges.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Thanks for getting back to me I called and they actually took 50% off the bill for me so it wasn’t too bad
Austen
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I have made some serious gains with these products . Deer antler spray has been around for 2000 years .
Maximum Shred doesn’t mess with my BP or HR . The guy who posted he couldn’t sleep also said he took 5 pills
instead of 3 .
The caffeine is only 180mg. Most energy drinks are 2 to 3 times more that .If you
are caffeine sensitive you have another issue .
Read the fine print and they will give you a discount and you can stop it at anytime . There is no miracle pill ; you still need to eat right for your goals and you need to do the work stop bad mouthing a good product .
There approach isn’t ideal but this stuff WORKS !
Greetings!!!
First and foremost thanks for saving me from this scam of Max Shred.
I go to gym atleast 5 days in a week and workout for almost 2 hrs that comes to 10 hrs in a week.
I want to reduce my tummy and heap fat.
Can you suggest me any supplement which can help me cut the fat in this areas.
I have love handles and I want to get rid of them, I am not inclined towards getting a six pack ab, but I just want a flat tummy.
Kindly help me with your suggestion.
Awaiting your response
Great to hear your working out so diligently! Check out a fat burner called Instant Knockout. It does double duty by providing pre workout energy on top of burning fat and suppressing appetite.
Alternatively, if you really want to “up the ante” you could check out a supplement called the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack. It’s perfect for targeting hard to reach fat, and burns it right the hell off haha.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I checked the reviews by you and your team.
The product Instant Knockout contains huge amount of Caffeine and My body will not respond to it.
Kindly suggest me any suppliment which is lower in Caffein.
Yeah, most fat burners contain caffeine. Try a non-stimulant called Nitrocut or a fat burner called Phen375. Phen375 does contain caffeine, but it’s less than what’s in Instant Knockout.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Thanks for the suggestion.
Can you make me understand the what exactly do you mean by Non – Stimulant (Nitrocut).
Secondly will I’ll be able to reduce the extra fat by using Nitro Cut.
Nitrocut does not contain any central nervous system stimulants, like caffeine. It uses nitric oxide boosting ingredients to provide energy for your workouts. It helps you burn fat but improving your ability to work out harder and get better results.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I’ve tried calling the phone numbers they provide, and it looks like they’ve been disconnected. Call your credit card company or bank and tell them you don’t want to accept any more charges from them.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Sounds like a plan!
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
If you’ve tried all the numbers and they don’t work, contact your credit card and tell them you don’t want to accept any more of their charges.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Do yourself a favor and just avoid them entirely, and be sure to warn off your lifting buddies. Seriously.
I talked to “Brandon” he tried to read his script, and give me deals, but I just cut him off, and said, I can appreciate you trying to do your job, but it ain’t happening, I’ll take my lumps over the shipping, and that’ll be that…
1-800-685-8208
Thanx Rob, wish I had looked you up first, DL’d your ebook, see how that goes..
Let me know if you have any questions when you read the ebook.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Give Cellucor C4 Extreme a try. It comes in powder form, and it’s very effective.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Same article but different products. How is that is that believable?
By the way: READ THE FINE PRINT, YOU WILL GET AUTO CHARGE FOR ANOTHER REFILL IF YOU LIKE OR NOT.
I ordered the supplements on the 23rd so I canceled them within their deadline. However, they are still charging me 38.71 per bottle.
So there is no such thing as a free trial. Even if you cancel within 14 days they will still charge you without your consent.. bitches..
In a nutshell this stuff needs more quality control.
It does something but it does not increase calorie burn I have 8 days of data to prove that.
Since they have fraudulently charged me already I will continue the testing and review it everywhere I can.
Also explicitly says to send bottles back upon cancellation. If you get charged after cancellation thats your fault.
Product is nothing special. Noticed nothing, felt nothing.
But for $4 it was worth a taste I suppose.
I mean if it’s not Angies List how can it be real?
I understand your skepticism. I do have an affiliate relationship with some of the products I recommend.
But only for products I’ve personally used and had great success with. It’s hard to know who to trust, but just like with anything else, do you own research as well, and trust your instincts.
Rob
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The ad poses as an ESPN article and uses the names and images of NFL NY Jets offensive lineman Dan Lee, LaRon Landry and Guardians of the Galaxy’s lead actor Chris Pratt.
I’ve see this ad twice but with two different product names “Fat BurnX” and the product mentioned above. The Fat BurnX was paired with another product that I don’t remember yet.
Both products were “reviewed” by the supplementpolice.com and received rave reviews.
Which compels me so say “Don’t trust the supplementpolice’s recommendation!" Whats also suspicious about that website is that it had links to the product purchase pages. The ad is titled on yahoo as: “Woman Dumps Boyfriend.
His Revenge Is Priceless.
After being dumped on his birthday for being “too overweight”, this man tested a weird new f?t loss method.
The results were unbelievable."
It also claims to be tested by sales director Daniel Bellini of ESPN who reports his “experience” with the product and endorses it.
Thank You Supplement Critique for being legit!
I haven’t heard of anyone going into collections for any of these “free trial” scams.
Rob
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In fact. you should do this before you even get the product. Don’t be surprised if the product never arrives.
This is why delivery takes so long. They wait until they have charged your card before they ship the product so you can’t avoid their trap.
Don’t be disappointed. You have just learned a valuable lesson about avoiding internet scams.
Got the ‘trial’ order for $10 then a month later was charged $100+ and again a month after that another $100+ I called (hung up after 20 minutes of the bloke trying to convince me not to cancel) and emailed to but they said they didn’t get the email in time. Funny how I emailed a week before the $ was taken out.
Had to cancel my bank card which has caused me a whole new set of issues…all I can say is DONT DO IT!!!
Not very happy.
Should I cancel my card as well or I should be fine now that I’ve paid the cancellation fees?
I’m not sure why you had to pay “cancellation fees”. If you ordered it and canceled within the same day, to the best of my knowledge you should only be charged the original shipping fees.
It seems a little fishy to me. I would definitely call and cancel with your credit card as well.
Rob
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notice the “espn” in the url again..that is what got me but they are far from being affiliated with espn. These guys should be arrested ..god knows what is in that stuff???
What number should I call to cancel this?
Here’s the contact information you need:
For Max Shred, it’s 1-800-622-4871 and customerservice@maximumshred.com.
For Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-635-5652 and customerservice@xtremeantler.com.
Make sure you call them before your 14 day trial period expires.
Rob
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Rob
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They never once answered my questions but just kept telling me to keep my account open til the 9th of January, which I’d like to point out is past my 14 day trial.
Also a email from the company said my order didn’t go through, and that I needed to finish filling out information. But when I went to do so it opt me to rebuy the products, I was a little smarter here and didn’t re order.
Because when on the phone with customer service they said my order went through.
I asked them about the email 5 times and the lady paused for 30 secs before answering every time with the same response ” you have up to 14 days to cancel, please feel free to use the product and not be charged” the heck kinda answer was that. Also they package deal the extreme antler with the maximum shred, so anybody who ordered already remember to cancel on both sites not just one.
The package is already being sent,I canceled my account and will also give a review on how it worked.
Well I extended it a week and then called and the computer recording told me for 38 dollars I could cancel all orders and keep both products so I did that.
Today I got an email from them saying my product had shipped and the ignorant lady had the nerve to ask me how I like the product when I asked why they charged my card and were sending me more when I had cancelled. She then goes on about how it only cancelled the maximum shred and I had not cancelled the extreme antler.
I told her cancel it now and asked if I could ship it back for a refund because I did not want it and was supposed to be cancelled.
She went on with this long speech about how she could not because it has already shipped and then asked me if I would like to extend my trial to January. That is when I knew I was working with a total retard.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND this to my worst enemy.
All they are worried about is profit and totally screwing you on top of seeing no results! If you want velvet spray go anywhere other than these people and for the maximum shred it is total crap!
They don’t even have a place on their site for reviews because they know how crappy they are!
I hope some people see this before falling for their garbage.
I ordered both maximum shred and extreme antler and the maximum shred i felt nothing, no pre work effects at all. And the extreme antler, after about 2 days of using it i started getting really sore cankers on my tongue, but i dint know that it was from this, used it for about 4 days and after that i couldn’t use it anymore it got way too sore, i had like 7 – 10 cankers on my tongue and they were sooo sore it was effecting my eating coz it would hurt overtime i ate, i had to stay away from most foods because they would hurt so much.
it took about 2 weeks for them to fully go away.
DO NOT BUY IT, its a scam, a waste of money and will mess up your tongue
I licked the links and order my FREE TRIALS, but luckily the FREE TRIALS period has just ended 3 minutes before I submitted my order. Then I come to this and found out I was just lucky as I am.
Thanks, you’ve safe me.
Since it was only 2 hours since I ordered I was assured it would never reach my door and i would be refunded. But the agent alarmed be a bit by saying “if it does reach your door just refuse the shipment so you don’t get charged.
I’m thinking of canceling the credit card i used after reading how they came back later and charged. Thanks to all for a heads up. ill post back if all turns out ok.
Will we ever learn about these to good to be true products and services???? I told myself i would never do it again but here i am lol
Don’t beat yourself up about it. It’s happened to thousands of guys, maybe millions. Be sure to sign up for my free “Get Ripped” ebook too. It’s packed with tons of diet and exercise tips, supplements optional.
Rob
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like i said before i had called within 2 hours of ordering to cancel. I first asked how long does it take until the order ships, i was told 48 hrs..I said good I caught in time to cancel. Like I mentioned before she said “if it does reach your door just refuse the shipment” that brings us to it arriving at my door in a plain little white box with no company info anywhere on the box just an address from savannah ga. Since I have a friend that lives there and its Christmas season I assumed it was from my friend and opened it to find it was the max shred and antler extreme
needless to say I called my credit card company right away to cancel the card. even if the product works this company uses nefarious tactic for sure. because of all this I’m afraid to even use this stuff.
I’m a bit baffled as to how this was on the espn website (http://www.espndaily.net/groundbreaking-muscle-building-supplements-examined/) which is the only reason i trusted it. now there is a 404 not found at that website. I would recommend staying far away from this.
Thanks for the update. I have to say at this point, I am never surprised at the lows these companies will stoop to.
The “espndaily.com” website isn’t related to ESPN at all. They just used the name for a while to draw in customers by making it seem legit.
Now, as you mentioned, they’re gone. Maybe ESPN forced them to take the site down, or maybe they did it on their own before they got caught.
Thanks again for keeping us posted.
Rob
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You should be fine since you’ve got confirmation numbers. Just keep a close watch on your credit card, and if you get charged, jump right on it.
But like I said, I think you’re all set. As for how to take them, I haven’t used them, so I recommend you follow the instructions on the packages.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Those tricky bastards are scaming people
I cancelled my card after calling the a sales rep at Max Shred. They were extremely pushy and said i can’t cancel until i receive the shipments.
But since i cancelled my card do i need to cancel my account when i receive them? Others said the cancellation process is long and theyll keep trying to sell me the product again.
I just want to know if I NEED to call them. Thanks!
It would seem that you’d be set by canceling your card, but I don’t have any inside knowledge of their process. If I were you, I’d make the call after you get the supplements.
Rob
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Please help
I have no way of knowing if your payment went through. You’ll have to contact your credit card company, and they can help you out.
Do make sure though that you cancel with Max Shred and Xtreme Antler before your trial period is up.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Don’t order these products and they charge you without your permission some weeks back. I mailed them asking refund but no proper reply. so please think twice before you entering your card details.
Thank You.
Anything for that ripped bod Haha I’m a sucker!!
Don’t feel bad, you would be SHOCKED at how many people fall for this…you’re not alone.
Check out my free “Get Ripped” ebook…it’s packed with tons of info on diet and exercise to help you get the body you’re looking for. Supplements are optional… 🙂
Rob
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I need help and I was hoping these products were part of the answer sir. I love your work and one day hope to meet you when I make it big any way god bless and thank you for your inspiration.
At your age, I really don’t recommend you take supplements beyond protein and creatine. None of the rest have been tested on kids under 18, so it’s just not worth the risk. The most important components of getting fit are of course diet and workout, so sign up for my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s filled with great advice and plans for both. And be sure to keep in touch about your progress.
Rob
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I talked to a representative named Hayley and she is probably one of the rudest individuals I have ever talked to.
Don’t waste your money, don’t try these products.
You’ll have to contact them directly to cancel, here’s their contact info:
Max Shred – CustomerService@MaximumShred.com
Xtreme Antler – customerservice@xtremeantler.com
Hope this helps, good luck!
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Just got sucked in. Bought it about 9 this morning and was on my lunch break before and found this page.
I tried to email the rep and the 2 websites still no responses. I really can’t afford this stuff.
I will call them when I finish work. Would they have sent it within 7 hours of the order.
If I call up will they let me cancel it today?
Unfortunately, most guys have found that they won’t cancel the order once you place it, even if you try like half an hour later. Lame, but true. You can try to cancel now, but most likely, they’ll say you have to call after you receive the product. Don’t feel so bad, thought. It happens all the time.
Check out my free “Get Ripped and Lean” Ebook, it’s packed with tons of tips on diet and exercise to help you get ripped, with or without supplements.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
$400 later and still trying to cancel this!
if it sounds to be good to be true it usually is
But seems to settle the score.
I got tried of their crap so i called my bank and canceled my debit card and ordered a new one. it’s that easy don’t mess with them people.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I have just had back surgery and after sitting at home for a while gaining a few kilos thought I would look at supplements , glad I read your review after reading their review guess I saved a few dollars already, thanks once again
Sorry to hear about your back. When your doctor clears you to start working out again, let me know and I’ll recommend some supplements that would suit your needs.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Great! Let me know how it works out.
Rob
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That should work, but I would also call and cancel before the trial period is up just to cover all your bases.
Rob
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I received the product, and knew about the charge after 14 days and made a note to cancel before then. However, I read an earlier review who said to cancel your card and that’s what I did the day after I received the products. No way they can charge you if your card has been cancelled.
A $5 fee for a new debit card is worth hours trying to cancel the trial and paying shipping fees back.
No worries though, glad it worked out for you. Check out my free “Get Ripped and Lean” Ebook, it’s packed with tons of tips on diet and exercise to help you get ripped, with or without supplements.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Called them twice. So what do I do?
As soon as you receive it in the mail, call and cancel. If you don’t get it within the 14 day trial timeframe, call and cancel on the 13th day anyway.
Most of them have the rule that you can’t cancel till you get the product. It sucks but it’s pretty typical.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I feel for everyone who got ripped off by this
Fell over when I received my CC statement today with 192.50 charges. Product arrived finally on the 22/09. charges on CC 30/09.
Not much of a trial. Customer Service today advises that email on the 19/09 does not constitute contact for trial extension.
What a load of S##T have canceled cc and submitted fraud claim and contacted office of fair trading. DO NOT SIGN UP FOR FREE TRIAL IT IS A TOTAL SCAM!!!!!!!!!
After I signed up for the Max Shred and Extreme Antler “free trials” I kept looking on the internet for information on them and came here. I immediately called to cancel and because it was right after I ordered them they did void the shipping costs.
The lady I spoke with did try to assure me that they do work but I wasn’t having it so she quit trying to feed me that garbage and promptly canceled my order. So at least their customer service was efficient and cordial!
Max Shred & Deer Antler actually does work!! I just ordered my free shipment this morning, it came in around lunch time and by dinner time my Six pack had a six pack!! Muscles grew muscles!! And it was Free!! All I did was pay a small,very tiny shipping fee of $10 a day for the rest of my life for the first two bottles… Needless to say I’ve gained 40lbs of muscle and lost 40lbs of Fat!! I know, because I weighed 180 pounds then took the pills then worked out then weighed myself and BAM!! Now I weigh an astonishing 180lbs… Before max shred my GF said she loved my body.. So I dumped her for being a liar but now after Max Shred I have 4 girlfriends… So don’t listen to these negative haters against max shred…order your free trial now and look like a warrior from the movie 300 the next morning!! Trust me..
It works.. If it didn’t work I wouldn’t put my name on it!!
Signed, Anonymous
Only when I receive it I’m allowed to cancel. What a joke
Rob
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If you make the mistake of ordering call them tell them you are getting a lawyer, send back the product, they will refund your money.
The product is very average and the secret billing on the credit card is way more than anyone would want to pay, I had to cancel my card as the customer service stated it would take a further 34 days to cancel. Even after they have taken the money they stop sending the product, A true scam!
Please do not buy from these people or I can asure you will be disappointed!!
I got an RMA number to put on the parcel and send back. Does this sound like it will work?
Considering cancelling card as well?
Rob
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I have not been charged any extra fees but cancelled my credit card after reading all this! I appreciate you and all the feedback.
I am interested in your getting ripped book! I am 53 and work out 3 to 4 times a week but have trouble at my age with weight.
Thank you for all you’ve done.
Glad to hear we could help! I’ll send the “getting ripped” ebook to your email address, so keep a lookout for it. When you’re ready to look at more supplements, a great stack for you is Nitrocut and Testofuel.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Just finished getting off the phone with the so called ‘customer service’ and after 5 seconds of talking to them it becomes apparent that they’re reciting some flowchart of responses to sway away from actually cancelling anything. Wasn’t even 10 minutes after ordering and they told me that it’s been processed and too late to cancel until I receive the product and send it back.
Save yourself the hastle guys. Gonna go with the cancelling my card method.
Damn.
I will call them tomorrow to cancel. The claims were big but I didn’t think they weren’t pissible!
Can you tell me what combo of supplements I should use to get similar resalts they claim? I want to build mussel fast and burn fat at the same time …
A great combination of supplements for you is Nitrocut and Testofuel. Nitrocut is a non-stimulant pre workout that gets you energized for your workout with a nitric oxide boost instead of stimulants. Testofuel is a natural testosterone booster that improves your overall energy and mood, increases lean muscle mass, and reduces body fat.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Should have the shipping costs back to me in 3 to 5 business days. We’ll see what happens
None of the money went threw thank god. And I got the samples for free and they won’t be able to bill me.
So they tried to scam me but I got the best of them. I haven’t used the product yet but I will and finish it off.
But I cage fight and run in college and need something to help drop weight in the cage to make weight but stay strong and fast for track. Any suggestions.
I weight 170 and I’m 5’11 and I drop to 145 for the cage with no supplements or problems.
I like Nitrocut as a pre workout, and it would suit your purposes really well. The energy comes from the NO boost, not CNS stimulants, so it’s totally safe, and really effective to boot.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Should I be fine with just doing that, or should I cancel my memberships as well once they get here?
I would cancel with the companies too if I were you. It’s best to cover all your bases. The phone number and email for Max Shred are 1-800-622-4871 and customerservice@maximumshred.com. For Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-635-5652 and customerservice@xtremeantler.com.
Rob
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Photo’s taken. I have tried calling the customer care number and cannot get through, just staying on hold for hours. Tried emailing to no avail.
CANCELL IMMEDIATELY.
You might want to consider contacting your bank. They should have a phone number that you can get through on, and may even do a conference call with you when you call them.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Nope, the listed ingredients in Maximum Shred are Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate, Beta Alanine, Caffeine, and Taurine. None of these would make you pop on a drug test.
They must have been talking about one of the other supplements.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I was looking up good work outs to go with the product and i ran into this post. I just got off the phone with them and i have to wait to recieve the product in mail and then call back so they can tell me when i can call back again to cancel and send it back.
Thank you so much and will be a lot more careful for now on! Thanks.
I have cancelled my credit card and told my bank whats going on so I will never pay that full cost but how do I contact them to Cancel?
Sounds like you’ve gotten things pretty well squared away. As for reaching them to cancel, I would use the email addresses listed on their websites. For Max Shred, it’s customerservice@maximumshred.com. For Xtreme Antler, it’s support@xtremeantler.com. Best of luck to you!
Rob
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Just tell them you want to cancel. Let them know that you weren’t ware that you were signing up for a free trial and that you don’t want to be billed.
Unless, of course, you want to give them a try and see how they work.
Rob
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Thank you
Jason
I just sent it over to your email along with the bonuses. Glad it’s working out for you.
Rob
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Thanks
Glad I caught you before ordering. If I were you, I would actually recommend you either stack Nitrocut along with a fat burner called Phen 375, or check out the Crazy Mass cutting stack. Either combo will help you with your goals.
Also, sign up for my free get ripped ebook, it’s packed with tons of free info on diet and exercise to help you get the results faster.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Looking to lose fat and gain muscle mass. Currently only taking daily vitamins and fish and Flax seed pills.
Any suggestions would be welcomed thanks.
Sounds like you might want to look at your diet as possibly the reason you’re not losing weight. Check out our Calorie Counter, input your information, and it will tell you how many calories a day you should be eating to reach your goals. Then sign up for my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got meal and workout plans to help keep you doing what you need to do. As for supplements, go with the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack. It covers all the bases for you, so you can focus on eating right, working out, and getting fit.
Rob
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what is the number to reach customer service ? i cant find it and need to cancel right away.
thanks
Max Shred – 1-800-622-4871 CustomerService@MaximumShred.com
Xtreme Antler – 1-800-635-5652 customerservice@xtremeantler.com
Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I can’t know for sure, but if they gave you a confirmation number and you send it back, you should be good. If it would make you more comfortable, call your credit card company and tell them not to accept any more charges from the company.
Rob
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And what intervals should be in between the exercises.
Yeah you generally hit your forearms pretty well when your doing the other exercises, but if your looking for forearm specific training then I would recommend you do palms up and palms down wrist curls over a bench. Here’s a good demo of them on Bodybuilding.com:
Palms down: http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/palms-down-wrist-curl-over-a-bench
Palms Up: http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/palms-up-barbell-wrist-curl-over-a-bench
I would do them either on your back or chest day.
Rob
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I work for a mining company and get regular drug tests and am always looking for healthy yet fast acting products. So in a way I guess you potentially saved my job!
Cheers
I don’t go to the gym but have a heavy duty manual handling job and play sport so I train 2x per week and play Saturdays I’m just wondering if NITROCUT AND TESTOFUEL will help me lose my stomach and chest fat to get them tight and cut? Cheers
They will definitely help, but they would do a better job in conjunction with a regular workout routine. This is especially true of the Nitrocut, which is meant to be used as a pre workout to help you intensify your workouts, giving you better results. You might be better off taking the Testofuel with a fat burner, like Phen375. This way, it’s not so tied into your workout routine, so you can remain flexible and somewhat alternative in that.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
They made me pay for both products at $170. I even called to cancel the products and they said that I need to return the products unless you finish 14 day-trial.
And when I finally called on the 14th day, they said they can’t cancel the order because there’s a line on the contract that says “you need to cancel before the 12th days of 14 day-trial. I said “Bullshit!!!"
Anyway, I scared them off with saying “I’m going to post this complaints on facebook and other review sites”.
But I had to return the products and paid for the shipping.
The product is just combination of caffeine and other nutrition. Please don’t waste your time and money.
How you said that they keep billing from your credit card! How do you cancel that?
If you know please tell me and I might be in a pickle hahaha.
Thanks
Make sure you call both companies before the 14 day trial period expires. The number for Max Shred is 1-800-622-4871. for Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-745-3010. Even if you’re past the trial period, call anyway to prevent any further charges.
Rob
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How do I go about contacting these people to cancel??
Your timing couldn’t be better. I’m almost finished putting together an ebook about the best way to put on muscle weight. I’ll put you on the list to receive a copy when it’s ready to be sent out. In the mean time, some key points to remember: You have to eat a lot, making sure you get lots of complex carbs in the morning as well as plenty of protein throughout the day. Limit cardio. Lift heavy. And as for supplements, check out either the Crazy Mass Bulking Stack, or stack Nitrocut, Muscle Advance Creatine, and 100% Whey Gold Standard.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Im 6’1 and 168 pounds. I have a slight stomach that needs toning and a chest that I need to tone (get bigger).
Would you suggest Max Shred and Xtreme Antler or something else? Also what is the process if I do take it?
Do i take it when Im done my work out, after Im done, during it? Please help.
Don’t go with these supplements. You may get a little benefit from them, but they’re nowhere near worth the price you pay and the hassle of getting out of it. I recommend you stick with the protein the way you’re using it now, and use Nitrocut as your pre workout supplement. On workout days, take it before you work out. On non-workout days, take it with breakfast or lunch. Alternatively, you can check out a product called the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack, it works great for guys in your position. Also, download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got tons of tips and advice for eating right and working out along with some bonuses to help keep you on track.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I weight 195 and I want advice please. I want to lose the weight and get a nice body.
At your age, you really don’t want to get involved with taking supplements. You’re still growing, and none of these formulations and very few individual ingredients have been tested on growing bodies. I’ve got a free “getting ripped” ebook you should sign up for. It’s got tons of advice and great meal and workout plans to help you get in shape. Use the plans in the book and take 100% Whey Gold Standard protein, and you’ll start seeing results. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Im trying to gain muscle, but also loose fat too; would you suggest using both Nitrocut and Phen375? What else would you suggest to me?
Check out either a product called the Crazy Mass Cutting Stack, or alternatively a stack of Nitrocut and Phen375 would be right for you. I would also add a quality protein like 100% Whey Gold Standard. The three will help you get great results quickly and healthily. Another thing you can do is sign up for and use my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s packed with tips and advice for eating and working out to get in great shape.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Yes, you can use Nitrocut when you’re overweight. I’d recommend a stack of Nitrocut as your pre workout and Phen375 for burning fat. The “getting ripped” ebook is also a great fit. If you follow the programs laid out in the book and take the supplements as directed, you’ll do great. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I’m thinking of ordering pro hormone. The company is Olympus Lab , the product is Epistan and Tren. Are they legit?
What do you think?
Thanks, Derek
Thanks. I’ll let you know when the reviews go up.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
The Supps I was looking at are prohormones, called Epistan and Tren by Olympus Lab. What do you think?
Thanks. I’ll look into them and send you an email when we get the reviews up.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Is the number for Max shredder same with the deer antler? Im in Australia.
I’m not sure, but you can use the email addresses listed on the websites if the phone numbers don’t work. For Max Shred, it’s customerservice@maximumshred.com. For Xtreme Antler, it’s support@xtremeantler.com.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I have one order number but the other never showed up. How do I go about canceling the subscription if that happened?
Make sure you call both companies before the 14 day trial period expires. The number for Max Shred is 1-800-622-4871. for Xtreme Antler, it’s 1-800-745-3010.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Thanks for the article. Have you ever heard of Olympus Lab?
Im trying to get back into shape. I workout at home and I want to start taking supps.
Thanks buddy
I’m not really familiar with Olympus Lab, but if you tell me what product or products you’re thinking about, I’ll look into them and put up a review or reviews for you. In the meantime, if you’re looking for a great pre workout supplement, check out Nitrocut.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I came across your write up about this 2 products late. I already ordered and pay for the shipping of these two.
So just to clarify all I need to do is to cancel it once I received the products or should I call my credit card company now to cancel?
Make sure you call and cancel before the 14 day trial is up, and you should be fine. They may or may not require you to send back the empty bottles.
But I would keep an eye on your credit card bill just in case.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Now the deer antler. I used it for two consecutive months and I don’t think it did anything for me. So honestly I would say, stay away from that as well. Thumbs up for max shred. But thumbs down for deer antler
Rob has good advice. Get yourself a cheaper and more effective pre work out such as nitro cut and maybe get a good complex carb post workout beverage like vitargo s2. That way you aren’t wasting muscle. Any hard gainers like me out there should know one thing. Do compound lifts. Don’t bother with isolation until you’ve got a good base of overall strength. Download the strong lifts app 5 x 5 workout and start lifting. When I started the 5 x 5 I was only squatting 150 pounds. WEAK!! Lol now I’m squatting 250 pounds full squat and working up to 300 pounds. The bigger you get your muscles, the more you can feel them. The more you can feel them the more you can contract them for great gains and muscle pumps 🙂 Plus I’ve went from 155 pounds to 170 pounds while eating right and continuing progressive overload on my muscles. Working out is all about eating right, getting enough sleep and working out properly with good form.
Sign up for my free weight loss book. It’s got lots of tips and plans for eating and working out so you can lose weight. As for supplements, check out Instant Knockout. It’s a great fat burner.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
You saved me a huge headache thank you again. I tried downloading you get ripped E book and it would not let me is there any way to email a copy to me?
Glad we could help! Check your email.
I just sent over the ebook and bonuses. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Rob
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The info gave me was Max Shred and it was in the United Kingdom plus it was today 8/11/2014 and I was still sleeping because it was only 7 in the morning. So I had to cancel my card and get a new one so that they cannot take out anymore of my funds.
I am still glad that I was able to find this. Thanks for this site.
Im 17 years old about to be 18 im 5’11 and weigh about 210 lbs.Ive been trying to get muscles for about a year now.and i didn’t see the results i want.So I kinda gave up so now i want to start again is there any supplements or advice you recommend for me I would really appreciate it thanks.
Ps.i have belly fat i would like to get rid off.
I would go with a stack of Nitrocut as your pre workout supplement and Muscle Advance Creatine to help you pack on the muscle. You should also download my free “getting ripped ebook” for some great plans for eating and working out to get in your best shape.
Rob
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First, I recommend that you download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got lots of great tips and advice for eating right and working out to get in shape. As for supplements, check out Nitrocut for your pre workout and Phen375 to burn fat and suppress your appetite.
Rob
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I worked out in the gym for about a month and I gained nothing from it..same mass and muscle..I need to gain a significant amount to get ready for my college sports..any ideas?
Yeah, gaining is hard for some guys, but I have a few recommendations for you. First of all, keep eating a lot. Get a lot of complex carbs in the morning and plenty of protein throughout the day. Aim for as much as 1.5 grams per pound of body weight. As for working out, I’d get back to the gym and lift heavy. You’ll also have to limit of eliminate the cardio, so that means cutting out the running. As for supplements, use a bulking stack like the Crazy Mass Bulking Stack, or Nitrocut for your pre workout supplement. It’s got no stimulants, so it doesn’t suppress your appetite or increase your metabolism. Take Muscle Advance Creatine to pack on the muscle and 100% Whey Gold Standard to help you get the protein you want. One last recommendation is that you download my free “getting ripped ebook” for tons of great eating and working out advice. Just make sure you up the caloric intake and skip the recommended cardio. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Rob
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You’re much too young to start taking supplements. Try doing strength building exercises using your body weight, like push ups, pull ups, chin ups, squats, and ab exercises.
You can get pretty strong with a focuses program of these. Add in some biking, swimming, or jumping rope to round out your workouts with cardio.
Rob
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The products don’t arrive and yet they continue to charge my credit card. Getting a refund or cancelling the the account was harder than finding hens with teeth.
The call taker ‘Mark’ wouldn’t listen and refused to pass me over to a supervisor or manager. People would be best advised to stay away from this company.
It is a scam.
This is a company that will take your money and not provide a service and then blame any problems on the customer.
I run all my IP information through three proxy’s and the TOR network. I hate companies like this.
No problem. I found the numbers on their website. Max Shred’s number is 1-800-622-4871 and their email is customerservice@maximumshred.com. Xtreme Antler’s number is 1-800-745-3010 and their email is support@xtremeantler.com.
Rob
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And i have a question does max shred and xtreme antler como on drug test?
From what I can tell of the ingredients, you’ll probably get some benefit from using these products, but not anything close to worth the cost of almost $200 a month. Generally speaking, good products don’t try to trick you into buying them using fine print that they know lots of customers won’t read.
But no, they probably won’t show up on a drug test either.
Rob
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It’s nice to see someone helping to point out the scammers. I used to work “customer service” for another POS company for a VERY short time.
They canned me because I wouldn’t be a bully. There is one more thing I’d like to point out to your readers, that was made VERY clear to me on my 1st day training and unfortunately, personal experience.
The 14 day trial period (ANY trial, ANY product) starts on the day you ORDER the product, not the day you RECEIVE it. That’s why more reputable companys will give you 30-60 day trials.
Rob
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I agree there isn’t any negative affect to 1.5g per pound of body weight. Although if the actual need is less and there’s a little more room for carbs and/or fat the person may be more satisfied having a little more carbs and/or fat allowed.
This may increase diet adherence as people will be able to eat a little more of the things they like, rather than shoveling more protein in beyond what is necessary for muscle building or retention. People tend to end up obsessing and then falling off their diet the less they are allowed to eat things they enjoy.
So if more doesn’t provide any superior benefit and there’s a larger caloric allowance for those delicious carbs and fat, people tend to stick to it longer and more consistently. As previously stated, there isn’t any negative affect beyond possible adherence issues, but most would rather enjoy more carbs/fat if there is no superior benefit to more than 1g per pound.
I would say some personal trial and error is best but just figured I’d give my opinion based on the peer reviewed research I’ve studied and the trial and error I’ve experienced. But I love that you got the truth out there about these crap supplements! 🙂 Cheers!
The best diet is the one you stick to.
Rob
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I agree these are a scam. I feel sorry for the people stuck paying a pretty penny for a crappy product.
My real question to you: I see you suggesting 1.5g of protein per pound for people trying to gain weight. Studies haven’t showed any muscle building benefit beyond 1g per pound.
Also with a hyper caloric intake the need for excess protein is even less as the presence of more carbs and fat further prevent muscle catobolism. When cutting (hypo caloric intake), with less carbs and fat present, the need for protein is greater than the need during bulking.
So why suggest 1.5g per pound for people gaining weight? That is a relatively hard number to hit depending on the person’s weight.
And the effects on a person’s wallet are even worse, needing even more protein supplement to hit said numbers. A 180 lb person would need to consume 270g protein.
That’s very unnecessary. For future reference, a better recommendation would be to consume their target weight in grams of protein.
So if that 180 lb person wanted to be 195-200 lbs, they would consume 195-200g protein. I used to think more was better, but studies show that’s not always the case.
And from experience 1g per pound is plenty, especially in a hyper caloric state.
There are a lot of different opinions out there, and I agree with you that the 1.5 gram standard is tough to hit. And again, you’re right, I’ve used 1.5g while cutting and had great success. That said, I think the numbers in the studies are minimums, and I’ve discussed this with a lot of athletes that still believe in the 1.5 target. But perhaps I might start presenting a little more loosely, as a goal rather than a must hit.
Thanks!
Rob
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Give them a call and explain the situation. See what they say and ask them to send you an email confirmation of whatever way you decide to proceed.
Rob
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I’m pretty sure that if you keep the trial bottles, they’ll make you pay for them, though I’ve heard of them discounting the price. You’ll have to call to cancel the autobill anyway.
While you’re on the phone, ask them what your options are. Just make sure that you get the autobill canceled.
Rob
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I’m not sure how they’d find you, but I certainly can’t guarantee that they won’t.
Rob
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You can try, but I don’t think that works very often. My guess is that they won’t stop the order from going out, and they’ll make you send it back. It also seems that guys have lots of different experiences, depending who you get at the customer service number.
Either way, give it a try. If it doesn’t work this time, call them as soon as you get the products and cancel then.
Rob
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My card was not charged and I was in the 14 day period, despite the best efforts of the customer service to con me into waiting. However since I already opened the bottles, and took some, and upon the reading the terms and conditions on the maximum shred website, I kept some of the pills.
Obviously i wont be completely ripped in 2 weeks as the website claims, but is it safe/healthy or even slightly beneficial to take it?
Thanks!
As far as I can tell, they’re safe and probably minimally effective. I would go ahead and take them if I were you. When you’re ready for something legit, check out Nitrocut.
Rob
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All the different free trial companies have slightly different terms they use. I’m not sure what they would do.
I would try calling them if I were you.
Rob
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I use Epiq Rush for my pre-work out, heard anything on that or would you still go with nitrocut? And could you take Phen375 with Epiq?
Will def. be downloading that get ripped e-book.
I haven’t looked closely at Epiq Rush yet, but if you give me a couple weeks, I’ll shoot you an email when I get a review up. I took a quick look, and my first response is that I wouldn’t take it with Phen375 because of the caffeine. I’ll let you know when I have more on Epiq Rush.
Rob,
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I’m not positive, but my guess is that if you ordered it a few days ago, they’ve already charged you for shipping and sent out the product. The best thing to do now is call wait to receive the product, then call to cancel further charges.
If they give you a problem or you can’t reach them, that’s when you’ll want to think about canceling your card. It couldn’t hurt to try calling them now to cancel the original shipment.
I just suspect that it’s probably too late.
Rob
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If they told you they canceled both, then they probably did. On the other hand, I understand and appreciate your reluctance to trust them.
I’d give them a call just in case and refer them to your confirmation number.
Rob
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That shouldn’t be a problem. They want you to try it, so they usually accept opened bottles as long as they’re on time.
Rob
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I have a multitude of dilemmas here first I am 6’2 & weigh 145 #’s and have a extremely hi metabolism. 2nd my body is really weak and my energy is lacking from a long time addiction to pain meds which I have now quit. 3rd I have limited funds to purchase a lot of the supplements if what I need will cost a lot. My goal is to get back to my original weight of 185 but I would like to try and get to maybe 200 or relatively close.
I want to be stronger along with looking the part. The one thing I do have in my favor is one hell of a work ethic bc I know that this will not happen overnight.
My ?’s are what should I do to start the process of getting my weight up, building my energy as well as libido which my wife is driving me crazy over(lol), adding muscle mass while increasing my strength and lastly keeping all of these once I’ve obtained them.
The first thing you should do is downlaod my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got tons of tips and advice regarding dieting and working out to get in great shape. Since you’re trying to put on weight, you’ll need to focus on a few specific things. Eat a lot – lots of complex carbs in the morning and protein throughout the day. Try for 1.5 grams of protein for pound of your body weight each day. When it comes to working out, limit or eliminate cardio, and lift heavy. As for supplements, combine a pre workout called Nitrocut with Creatine from Muscle Advance. Nitrocut is great in your case because it has no stimulants so it doesn’t suppress your appetite and also because it boosts nitric oxide which is great for your sex life. Muscle Advance Creatine helps by getting your muscles working at max capacity so you lift more and gain more muscle. That should get you started. Let me know if you have more questions.
Rob
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Seeing as they canceled it already should I even ship the products back?
I would send them back if I were you. A lot of these companies will try anything to not refund your money.
Don’t give them a reason. By giving you the RMA numbers, they were letting you know that they want the bottles returned.
Rob
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I want to get back into shape and I’m tired of all these scam sites and promos. I am currently 5’9″, 210lbs and 24 yrs old.
I don’t have a lot of time being a single father and full time student with the odd job on the side to go to the gym everyday. What could you suggest for someone who has an extreme schedule?
I’d prefer to work out from home.
I’m impressed that you’re trying to find the time. You may want to pick up a used bench and a few weights on Craig’s List or someplace similar. Then sign up for my free “getting ripped” ebook and you can do most of the exercises at home with just that equipment. That way you can fit in a workout whenever you have time. As for supplements, a pre workout like Nitrocut will do wonders for giving you the energy you need to get the most out of the workouts you can manage to fit in.
Rob
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Depending on when you ordered it I suppose there’s a chance, but honestly I’d be surprised if they canceled the shipment. They usually go out the same or next day.
Give it a try, but if it doesn’t work out, just make sure to call as soon as you get the product.
Rob
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Believe it or not they still sent it!! They will not give you any decent reply other than the email to say its been shipped!!! Oh yeah another thing if your ringing from abroad (Australia in my case) dial 0011 before the number……..initially it was telling me that the number was disconnected.
When i finally got through I spoke to a complete dumb ass arrogant b***h that did not want to listen to me! I told her how i am severly allergic to caffeine (makes me almost stop breathing) which is contained in the shred and the xtreme antler is illegal in the sport i train (boxing).
The lady told me just to ‘try it’ and see how i feel and offered it to me for half price!!! Eventually, she told me to hold for a couple of mins whilst she got me my ref number to post the products back.
I checked my email and saw they had emailed it instead………they put you on hold on purpose to charge you more for the phonebill………..in the end I just hung up! An absolute waste of time and money!
I wish I could seriously do some damage to these scammers………just dont know how!
Call the customer service numbers to cancel any future charges. The Max Shred number is 1-800-622-4871 and the Xtreme Antler number is 1-800-635-5652. Be prepared for them to try to convince you to pay half price or something similar. Don’t fall for it.
Hang tough and you should get a full refund provided you take care of it in time.
Rob
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And I was also wondering if when you call to cancel the trial subscription,do they cancel it as soon as you call? or when they receive to returned package?
-Kevin
It depends. Some of them make you send it back and some don’t.
I’m not sure about these two. Make sure you get a clear answer when you call.
They’re tricky.
Rob
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I found it through facebook and decided to try it cause it said free trial. However I didn’t pay attention to 14 days instead of the bottle being a 30 day supply.
They sent me the bottle but I called to cancel because on the bottom of the page it said they will charge you 80 bucks for each one. The lady got nasty and tried to sell me the bottles for half price I said no.
Then she told me I need a RMA number and to get a tracking number. However they ship you both products in one package but when you return it you have to send each item in 2 different packages.
That pissed me off and I swore at the woman for working for such a shit bag company. So since I have a 14 day trial and its 3 pills a day I am canceling my credit card number tomorrow and having them issue a new number.
Then I am taking 42 pills out of the 30 days supply which should leave 48 pills.Open the bottles so they cant legally resell them. Also the ingredients suck, its mostly caffeine pills Open the deer antler package and spray the heck out of your mouth for a week till half of it is gone.
I am sending it back and writing this letter. More embarrassed for being so damn gullible.
I guess I’m just looking for a little help to loss weight and feel better any suggestions?
It can be really hard to get started with a fitness program. One thing that helps a lot is to have a plan in place that’s fairly easy to stick to. Then once you start seeing results, those results give you motivation to keep going. First thing, download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s got a workout and eating plan that’s flexible yet easy to follow. As for supplements, stack a pre workout called Nitrocut with a fat burner called Phen375. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Rob
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I would highly recommend you get this checked out by your local physician. You will be surprised.
If you have it let me know and I will guide you how to treat it.
I stand at 170cm, at a weight of 77kg.
Im looking for some killer workouts that will help me gain the muscle I want in my upper body. And what sort of whey protein that could get me quick results.
I work out 4 times a week.
Any ideas? thanks.
Liam
Download my free “getting ripped” ebook for a workout plan as well as tips on eating to get ripped. As for whey protein, definitely go with 100% Whey Gold Standard from Optimum Nutrition. If you need a preworkout, I recommend you check out Nitrocut.
Rob
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It was only when I ordered and went through the payment part that I noticed the small print and the terms and conditions. I have emailed them both about cancelling the payment but still no reply!!!
I also called the numbers (from Australia) and I’m getting the message that both numbers have been disconnected!!!! I will contact the bank too but What should I do??
I’m training in boxing at the mo, im 83kg and am aiming for 75kg. I have been eating healthily and avoiding sweets etc but the weight just will not shift………Been training real solid too!
Rob, I know you mentioned some products earlier but will these get me to lose this amount of weight in 5 weeks!?! Thanks mate, you are a life saver 😉
Yeah, these companies can be a real pain to deal with. Definitely call your bank and tell them you don’t want the charges if they do charge you. I recommend you use Nitrocut as your pre workout and Phen375 as your fat burner. Also, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for workout and diet help to get you to your goals faster.
Rob
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It’s nice to know that someone out there is looking out for people. There are so many scams online that sometimes I am unsure what to believe lol.
Thanks for doing the research on all these products. Your website has given me priceless guidance.
Hope all is well and thanks again.
Sincerely,
John
I’ve been trying to gain weight but Due to the high intensity cardio that would do it’s been impossible for me to do so. I eat a lot everyday and also take Serious Mass by Optimum Nutrition .
I workout about 3-4 times a week. Any suggestions ?
When it comes down to it, you have to take in more calories than you use, and in order for the weight to be muscle weight, you’ve got to work out. Sometimes simplifying it to those terms helps. Try to eat real food about 6 times a day, and take your gainer on top of that. I usually recommend that you limit cardio, but that would be hard for you to do. When you lift, lift heavy. As for supplements, take Muscle Advance Creatine to try to pack on the muscle. In the end, you may have to weight till you no longer play competitive soccer before you can start bulking up.
Rob
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Once it asked for credit card info however I realized that my suspicion that it was a scam was probably true. So i did not proceed and closed out of the page.
When I got home the company actually called me trying to convince me to buy the product and gave me an “even better deal”. Usually when a company tries to give you a better deal on something that is free, its a scam. (Red Flag #4 haha).
This was the only legitimate review I found online and confirmed my decision to avoid the product. Thank You.
I’ve been working out around 3-5 days a week since october.
Im seeing pretty decent results but I know they could be better. Im currently using Cellulor C4 as a pre workout and HydroBuilder as a post workout.
Any other suggestions?
Sounds like you’re doing pretty well. I recommend you add Muscle Advance Creatine to take your lifting to a new level. Also, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for diet and workout ideas. I’ve also recently added some bonuses including a workout log, sample meal plans, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat” to the package.
Rob
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Before this headache begins for me, would you just recommend for me to call the companies tell them to cancel the order and hopefully it’ll stop that payment of $189?
Yep, I would call them as soon as possible to make sure the cancellation process gets started in time. They may tell you to call back after you receive the product, but I’d say it’s worth trying to stop it right away if you can.
Max Shred’s number is 1-800-622-4871 and Xtreme Antler is 1-800-745-3010.
Rob
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But I wanted you hear your opinion on what some one like my self needs to do I’m in my early 30’s and I want to start working out again and mostly just tone the fat I have now I’m at 195lbs .. What’s your thoughts ?
Glad you found us in time. Check out Nitrocut. It’s a great pre workout with no stimulants and no auto-billing programs. You’ll also want to download my free “get ripped” ebook full of workout and meal plans to help you reach your goals. I’ve also just added some bonuses including sample meal plans, a workout log, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat.”
Rob
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Contrary to a lot of women, I have no problem getting bulkier muscles 🙂
Phen375 would work too. I just recommended the other two because they’re more workout related which seemed to suit you more. But yep, if you want to go with a fat burner, I’d definitely choose Phen375
Rob
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I notice most of your responses are to men. I am a 32yo woman 5’7″ and 67kg. I find it very difficult to build real muscle as my frame has always been skinny, but some enforced inactivity has loaded 7kg of unwanted weight on my midsection and butt.
Also, both muscle energy recovery and repairs take twice as long as my male AND female friends doing harder workouts.
Any recommendations for supplements and the like for weight training (not sure as a woman it’s a great idea to mess around with my testosterone which is currently middle normal)…
P.S I’m very dairy intolerant and have had to stop using 100% Gold Standard Whey. Trialed Sunwarrior Rice protein and gag every time.
Nasty stuff.
Go with Nitrocut and Muscle Advance Creatine. Some women think creatine will make them too bulky, but it’s not the creatine, it’s the diet and workout routine you use. As far as protein goes, look into SAN Rawfusion. I don’t know much about it, but I’ve heard it’s the best tasting vegan protein out there.
Rob
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I too, like many posters here, seem trapped by the recurring billing from this company. I have sent them a couple of emails (as I am in Australia – calling is not an option) requesting them cancel my order but they have not answered a single email.
Any pointers on how to get them to cancel the order?
cheers
Simon
I would suggest you contact your credit card company directly and see what they have to say.
Rob
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Then gave me all the necessary details to do so. I haven’t received my product yet but will be returning it straight away.
You need to get an RMA number, write it on the package, and then return it to their address.
The lady also mentioned getting a tracking number for it in case it gets lost in the mail. Not sure if that’s necessary though.
I did my homework a little late (not smart) but I’m glad I did it. Can’t thank you enough for this page!
Who knows how much ass pain you just saved me, and money!
Rob
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Nevertheless, once I get the RMA and send it back, what type of supplements would you recommend to drop weight?
I’m 254 and trying to get to 185 which was my weight in when I was in the military 9 years ago. I’ve been doing calorie counting since January with a mixture of cutting out carbs and have only dropped 20lbs. I was injured in a car accident a year and half ago so I can’t run do some injuries sustained in one of my legs,but I can walk due to my doctor restrictions.
I can lift weights but it has to be light do to some muscle spasms i get in my upper back and neck.
Sorry to hear about your accident, but I’m glad you found us before getting caught up in monthly payments. Go with a pre workout called Nitrocut, and stack it with a fat burner called Phen375. Also, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of tips on working out and eating right to get in shape. The workouts should be fine for you, just choose a weight you’re comfortable with. I’ve also recently added a few bonuses along with the book that can help keep you on track.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Rob
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please dont get caught people as i did. nothing is free
These products don’t list their ingredients so I can’t know for sure. You’d have to check with the company.
Sorry I couldn’t be of more help.
Rob
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If you haven’t already, download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It’s full of workout and diet tips for getting big and ripped. I’ve also added some bonuses help you along. If you want to gain weight, you’ll have to eat more. Try adding 500 calories a day or more to your current diet, and make sure you get enough protein. The rule of thumb for gaining is 1.5 grams a day for every pound of your body weight. That’s about 250 grams a day for you. 100% Whey Gold Standard from Optimum Nutrition will help you make that goal. As for supplements, stack pre workout Nitrocut with Creatine from Muscle Advance. Then lift heavy and limit cardio. Follow this plan and you’ll put on the weight pretty quick.
Rob
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Can a detox b helpful in my situation ? What would u recommend for me?
I would stay away from both Max Shred and Xtreme Antler. They exist mainly to lighten your wallet with their free trial scams. You should read my article about these kinds of products. In your case, go with a stack of Nitrocut for your pre workout and Muscle Advance Creatine to help you pack on the muscle. Also, if you haven’t already, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for all kinds of tips and help with workouts and meals. I’ve also recently added several bonuses that can help keep you on track.
Rob
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How do I know when to take them, & how many to take? Plus when you said when i reach my weight goal trade “Phen375” out for “Muscle advanced creatine” do I still need nitrocut aslo?
Last question do you know a good place that is cheap to get a trainer or just a cheap gym membership in general? Thanks rob.
Phen375 helps burn fat all over your body. You can’t really pick and choose where you’ll lose fat. Stacking Phen375 with Nitrocut is both safe and effective. You’ll take 1 Phen375 before breakfast and another before lunch. And take 2-4 Nitrocut capsules before workouts or before breakfast of lunch on non-workout days. When you’ve lost the weight you want to lose, you’ll drop the Phen375, keep the Nitrocut, and add the Musle Advance Creatine. You’ll have to look around the area you live for your best gym options. I don’t really have a recommendation for you on that. Let
Rob
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So sorry you have to deal with this. If they don’t refund your money, get in touch with your bank card and see if there’s anything they can do to help.
Definitely make sure you get all future payments stopped.
Rob
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That’s a great question. As far as I know and as far as I’ve heard, there’s nothing dangerous about these products and the ones like them. Just, as you say, don’t expect much from them. So go ahead and take them until their gone, and when you’re ready, check out my review for a better option, Nitrocut.
Rob
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I ordered it about a week ago, and I got it in the mail excited. After the workout it made me feel so sick and queasy every time.
I called them after I read what you had put up. You are a legend you would never lie to us!
It was like pulling fingernails out getting it canceled, but I got some good Pre-workout supplements now thanks to you and a good weigh protein as well. Thank you again, you really did help me out
Glad we could help you out. There are definitely scammers out there, and when we find them, we let you know.
Make sure you tell your friends about us and like us on Facebook. And keep in touch.
Rob
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My boyfriend decided to order this yesterday, and I’m a little in sure has what the next step. We are looking to cancel the order and want to make ire they do not take any further money.
If you have any suggestions i would really appriciate the help.
Thanks you.
Brittany
I’m glad you found us in time. I have a couple things that can help you out. First of all, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for all sorts of diet and workout help. I’ve recently added a few bonuses to the package for helping to keep you on track. As for supplements, it sounds like Nitrocut is what you’re looking for.
Rob
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I would like to know a site that would be perfect for me to lose weight first, then gain muscle quickly. Thanks Rob
The first thing you need to do is get your diet and exercise routines in order. Download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of tips and plans there. I’ve also included a few bonuses to help you stick with the program. As for supplements, stack the fat burner Phen375 with the pre workout Nitrocut. When you’re close to your weight loss goal, trade out the Phen375 for Muscle Advance Creatine for gaining muscle.
Rob
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I’m glad you found us so you don’t get caught up in an expensive monthly subscription. I definitely recommend Nitrocut over these for pre workout. And if you have significant weight to lose, Phen375 is the best fat burner. If you’re just looking for added muscle tone and growth, stack TestoFuel with your Nitrocut instead.
Rob
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They do not work and the company gave me a hassle when canceling during my trial period… my cr.card is cancelled with a new one on the way even though I did get a confirmation email of cancellation. But just wanted to give you another heads up that the same reviews from the ordering site are exactly the same as a new site for Nitro Extreme and a supposed T booster that I unfortunately cannot remember the name of…. save your money and go to GNC to get your supplements….
Thanks for the heads up, and I’m glad to hear you got away without losing any serious money. It’s pretty ridiculous that you had to cancel your credit card, but better safe than sorry! If you’re still looking for a pre workout and a testosterone booster, check out Nitrocut and TestoFuel. They’re both sold online, but neither has auto-billing policies.
Rob
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It contains caffeine, 60 mg per capsule. Something they don’t mention on the ad.
Recommended 2-3 caps per day which adds up to 120-180 mg of caffeine (about 3 cups of coffee). Yikes is all I have to say to that.
Caffeine I thought has been known to dehydrate the body? One capsule also contains: Taurine 200 mg, beta-Alanine 200 mg, L-arginine Alphaketo-Glutarate 400 mg.
The Extreme Antler is IGF-1, which is a banned substance in all major sports and most collegiate as you mentioned, even though it is an all natural product. btw just phoned now to cancel my trial, they tried to talk me into keeping it going, then they tried to upsell another product to me. Red flag for sure.
I’m a 19 year old college student that just can not put on weight. I have been lifting properly for the past 5 years yet struggle to add any size.
I have the type of body where if I did nothing but eat, I would still probably lose weight. As a result I have not found any success by using protein supplements.
What do you suggest to increase mass?
I have a few things that’ll help. You need to eat. a. lot. Eat about 6 balanced meals a day and snack in between if you can. Get lots of complex carbs in the morning and make sure you eat enough protein. You want to get about 1.5 grams for every pound of your weight. Make sure you lift heavy and limit your cardio to nothing or next to nothing. Download my free “get ripped” ebook full of eating and workout tips and plans. I’ve also included a few bonuses with the book: sample meal plans, a workout log, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat.” When it comes to supplements, stack a pre workout called Nitrocut with a creatine supplement called Muscle Advance, and add in a protein supplement. Go with 100% Whey Gold Standard. It’s effective and tastes amazing!
Go with this plan and you’ll see some gains.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I find that I do not have good muscle endurance when working out, but cardiovascularly I am not too bad. What would you suggest?
Thanks.
I have three suggestions for you. 1 – Use a pre workout called Nitrocut. It will help with your overall energy and stamina for your workouts. 2 – Use Muscle Advance Creatine to give you that muscle energy. You’ll be doing more reps at heavier weights and you’ll definitely see the results. 3 – Add a protein shake to your diet for building muscle and putting on weight. Go with 100% Whey Gold Standard from Optimum Nutrition. It works great and the taste is phenomenal.
You’ll also want to eat a lot, like 6 or more times a day and limit your cardio.
Hope this helps!
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
There are definitely better supplements out there, and you can get most of them cheaper than these. If you want a pre workout, go with Nitrocut. For boosting testosterone, you’ll want Testo Fuel. I would contact the company as soon as possible to cancel before you get charged again. If you can’t reach the company or don’t get a satisfactory resolution from them, cancelling you’re credit card would do the trick.
Rob
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Im 24 weighing around 70kgs being 5’8.
I just want to have a flat abdomen and shaped & lean muscled chest and biceps.
1. I used to weigh 91kgs 4 years back and i lost 20kgs in a year by doing cardio. For the last 3years, i have this really loose belly fat(many say its my extra skin as i was fat before).
I also have some side fat around my waist which i want to get rid of. Could you please recommend me how i could get rid both of these and have a straight flat tummy?
2. Also when I workout on my muscles and chest, I do not get results. They are not growing nor coming in shape.
While working out i really do not get much energy. I am taking the “maximuscle high protein promax” which says it supports lean muscle growth.
I feel its not helping. Could you recommend me any supplement which would help me getting shaped & lean muscled chest and biceps?
Should i continue maximuscle?
For both of your concerns, the first thing I recommend is that you download my free “getting ripped” ebook. It walks you through workout and meal plans that will help you reach all your goals. I’ve also just added bonuses including sample meal plans, a workout log, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat.”
To lose the extra fat, try a fat burner called Phen375 along with the workout plan in the book. For your trouble packing on muscle, go with a stack of a pre workout called Nitrocut and a creatine supplement called Muscle Advance. Nitrocut will help with energy for your workouts and Muscle Advance will allow your muscles to work at their max so you can build muscle. Go ahead and keep taking your protein as well. You need that for weight loss an muscle building.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Rob
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Rob
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Not sure was supplements I should use.
Check out a cutting stack by a company called Crazy Mass, just finished up my review, check it out here: https://www.supplementcritique.com/crazy-mass-cutting-stack-review/
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Thanks
Since diet and working out are the most important factors in getting ripped, you should sign up for my free “get ripped” ebook with tons of advice in those areas. As for supplements, go with a preworkout called Nitrocut. And if you really want to get rid of that belly fat fast, stack in a fat burner called Phen375 for a while.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Can you help me with this?
Regards
Here is their contact info to cancel:
Max Shred – 1-800-622-4871
Xtreme Antler – 1-800-635-5652
Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I’m 6’2 and about 160lb. I’m trying to gain more muscle, what would you recommend?
First off you’ll need to increase your caloric intake as well as limit the amount of cardio your doing. As far as supplements, I would recommend you stack Nitrocut along with Muscle Advance Creatine. Check out my reviews below:
Nitrocut – https://www.supplementcritique.com/nitrocut-review-our-1-pre-workout-supplement/
Muscle Advance Creatine – https://www.supplementcritique.com/muscle-advance-creatine-review
Rob
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Can you help me there is no way I can afford this.
Here is their contact info to cancel:
Max Shred – 1-800-622-4871
Xtreme Antler – 1-800-635-5652
Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I’ve lost most of my stomach fat but the abs are still hidden. I try to cut carbs before sleep as much as possible, and sleep on protein shakes(was recommended by a friend). Was wondering what you would suggest.
Not wanting to buy any fat burners as of now. Thanks,
Dylan
In your case I would stack a pre workout supplement called Nitrocut along with a HGH releaser called HyperGH 14X. Here’s my reviews below:
Nitrocut – https://www.supplementcritique.com/nitrocut-review-our-1-pre-workout-supplement/
HyperGH 14X – https://www.supplementcritique.com/hypergh-14x-real-review-and-results
Rob
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I just need to know if your suggestions are solid. And how it is used I have just turned 20yo and I want to get shredded for footy season, losing weight has also taken my strength and muscle.
The last thing I want is an injury that would take me out of the season.
Keep doing what your doing brother
Thanks
Wayne
Glad I could help!
Yeah Nitrocut and Phen375 would be the best supplements for you to take if you’re looking to get shredded, check out my reviews here if you haven’t already seen them:
Nitrocut – https://www.supplementcritique.com/nitrocut-review-our-1-pre-workout-supplement/
Phen375 – https://www.supplementcritique.com/phen-375-review
Also make sure you sign up for my free “Get Ripped” ebook, it’s perfect for guys like you who are looking to get in shape quick!
Rob
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Congratulations on your upcoming wedding. First of all, you’ll need to change your diet and workout habits. Download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of tips about those two factors. I’ve just added a few bonuses too. You’ll get a workout log, some sample meal plans, and my “Big List of Foods You Can Eat” to help you out.
As for supplements, stack a fat burner called Phen375 with a pre workout called Nitrocut. Stick with your program and the weight will come off! Good luck and let me know if there’s anything else I can help you with.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Ive been reading all the comments on top and I want to know what you would recommend for me. Im 22 years old 5’7 I weigh 245.. I work in construction and go maybe to the gyn abouy 2 to 3 time a week..
I want to lose 40 pounds between these 2 to 3 months do you think thats possible? And how?
I’d say your goals are a little aggressive, but not totally unreachable. First of all, download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of diet and workout strategies to use as the core of your program. I’ve recently added 3 bonuses to the package, including a big list of foods you can eat, a sample meal plan, and a workout log. If significant weight loss is your primary goal, make sure you make time for plenty of cardio. As for supplements, stack a pre workout called Nitrocut with a fat burner called Phen375. This combination will get you started on the right track.
Rob
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Im 35 about to be 36 5,9 and 240 . I was @ 280+ and just lost the 40 pounds over the last year through mostly diet and food changes .
Im about to start really working out . Been hard due to my work hours are usually 60 hours a week and mostly the noc ( night shift ) .
Any recommendations on what would be a good supplement to help with my workouts , also keeping in mind im type 2 diabetic .
Great job so far, and keep up the great work. You’re definitely making the right move by stepping up your workout game. Download my free “getting ripped” ebook for tons of diet and workout strategies. I’ve just added 3 bonuses including a big list of foods you can eat, a workout log, and a sample meal plan. As for supplements, stack a pre workout called Nitrocut with a fat burner called Phen375. But because of your medical condition, check with your doctor to make sure these would be okay for you.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I’ve scrolled through the previous posts and see you’ve recommended a few combinations of supplements and not sure which would apply to me. I’m 28, 5’9″, 160lbs and in pretty good shape.
However, I can’t seem to get rid of that last bit of fat on my abs, pecs and side handles without starving myself. I’m not looking to bulk but just get ripped.
I workout mostly at home with p90x and Insanity programs. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
First I’ll suggest that you download my free “get ripped” ebook for a ton of tips on dieting and exercise. And I’ve a few bonuses too, like a workout log, sample meal plans, and a big list of foods you can eat. I realize you’ve already got your workouts planned, but you can never have too many options. As for supplements, I have a couple suggestions for you. There’s a fat burner called Phen375 that could help you get rid of that stubborn stuff and there’s a pre workout supplement called Nitrocut that gets you there without stimulants. You can use either one by itself, or you could stack them for even quicker results. Best of luck reaching your goals. Stick with it and you’ll get there!
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Im 19, 6’2, weighing around 270. I would really love to get down to around 220-230 by the summer because ive recently got alot of torso tattoos and i want to show them off without being super self concious.
Im not sure what i need to do workout wise and i really want to take some good fat burners and something else to get me ripped by then. (cheapest route possible please). Ive recently started taking lipozene and so far ive lost around 4 pounds.
Any help you can give me, is much appreciated!
Thanks again,
Stephen
The first thing I’ll recommend is that you download my free “getting ripped” ebook. Not only is if filled with tips on how to eat and workout to get ripped, but now it also comes with 3 bonuses including a sample meal plan, a workout log, and a big list of foods you can eat. As for supplements, I like a couple of fat burners, like Phen375 and Capsiplex. But they’re more expensive than Lipozene so you’ll have to decide what to do there. And for sure add a pre workout supplement called Nitrocut to your routine. You’ll get way better results from your workouts than you do without.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I am 32 years old, 180, 6’1″. In the last 3 years I have notice my metabolism slowing down and gaining a little belly fat that has never been there.
I work 50-60 hours a week and havent ever been huge in lifting weights. So my time is very limited.
I am going to start running 2-3 times a week and maybe do push ups and sit ups at night. What else should I take that would help me the most considering I’m not going to be pumping the weights?
Interested in getting in shape rather than getting big. Thanks in advance!
With your situation and stats, go with HyperGH 14X. It’s a natural Human Growth Hormone releaser. With more HGH, you’ll have more energy, you’ll feel better and stronger, you’ll lose fat and gain muscle more easily, you’ll even sleep better. Given the fact that you’re not really lifting, but trying to get in shape, this is your best fit. You should also download my free ebook on Getting Ripped. It’s got tons of meal and workout plans that could add to your routine to help you reach your goals.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
That’s a lot of weight to lose in 2 to 3 months. Go with a stack of Phen375 and Nitrocut. Phen375 is a fat burner and appetite suppressant. It’ll help you drop the weight fast. Nitrocut is your pre-workout supplement to make sure you get the most you can out of your workouts.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Very interesting being as though im.on day of.the products and.was.basically going to.get ready to update credit card.info but you’ve given.me.a cause to pause om.28 today n.a. is my.bday but im tryin to lose.stomache.fat boost metabolism and loose the man boobs lol is there.something u.can recommend that would be more cost effective… I workout about 5x’s a week for 2 hours have 4 children and need the energy im.trying to lose about lbs over the next 3 months please help..
Thanks for the heads up! I’m trying to loose belly fat and gain muscle in all places… what would you suggest?
I also have seafood allergies and I’ve noticed a lot of supplements contain some kind of fish or seafood product. What can you reccommend?
I work out for about an hour a day 5 days a week.
Use Nitrocut and Muscle Advance Creatine. Nitrocut is a great non-stimulant pre-workout. It’ll help you push harder through your workouts for better results. Muscle Advance Creatine will help you pack on the muscle. Also, download my free “get ripped” ebook for tons of diet and workout tips.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Thanks for the reply. have downloaded you book n shared with few mates who have just started a routine.
I should have waited for your reply coz i went and ordered for Phen375 yesterday. Can I still use it for a month or so to lose fat and then continue with Nitrocut?
Cheers,
Jacob.
Absolutely you can! The only reason I didn’t suggest it is because you just said a little belly fat and that’s probably going to respond better to getting in better shape overall (and of course lots of cardio). Go ahead and use the Phen375. You can start use the Nitrocut simultaneously or you can weight. It’s up to your personal preference.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I am on a 3 – 4 day workout routine with 40 mins cardio n 20 mins weights. Looking to loose some belly fat n also ripped.
Am 34, 75 kgs.
Can you suggest some supplement combo?
Cheers,
Jacob
Definitely go with Nitrocut for your preworkout. And stack in HyperGH 14X to hlep get you lean and energized. Also, if you haven’t already, you should download my free “get ripped” ebook for a bunch of diet and workout tips. And feel free to share it with your friends!
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I’m currently 19. A year ago I weighed about 150 lbs and am now sitting in at just under 170.
I’ve cut down on working out every since graduation but have never used any supplement before but would really like your advice on how to get a huge amount of energy so I’m not tired at the gym. I’ve read that nitric oxide is great but haven’t done any personal testing.
You definitely want to go with nitric oxide. I like Nitrocut. You and your muscles get all the energy you want, without using central nervous system stimulants.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I am hearing about sixpack shortcuts monster mass work out and after burn fuel. Do you have any idea about this?
Let me look into them and get some reviews posted for you. Keep checking back for them!
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I have personally used Testofuel and recommended it to hundreds of customers with no complaints so far. That said, side effects are always possible with any supplement, check with your doctor to be absolutely sure.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
What would you suggest for helping to lose weight? I just got back into working out and am overweight.
My energy levels are low due to the weight and would like to have more energy to start getting back in shape.
Thanks
Go with a stack of Nitrocut and Phen375. Nitrocut is a non-stimulant pre-workout that gives you great, clean energy to get you through your workouts. It also increases blood flow so you get great pumps and results. Phen375 is a fat burner/appetite suppressant. It’ll help you start losing the weight quickly so you get motivated by your results.
You should also download my free “get ripped” ebook for tons of diet and exercise tips. Good luck Mike and once you lose the weight, come back and we’ll talk about you’ll want to take then.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
You are a legend! Thanks so much for saving me bulk cash!
I could use some quick advice.
I’m 28 and have always been blessed with a great metabolism which has kept me in shape. That is until the last 12-18 months.
I have stacked on weight in my stomach and chest region.
Ive never joined up at a gym until today and want to get lean/ripped/shredded before July. Help me!
What can I be doing/taking to help shred the gut, while building some beach muscle 🙂
Thanks heaps
Yeah, these scams are ridiculous. I’m amazed they get away with what they do and glad we could help you out. You can return the favor by liking us on Facebook and telling your friends.
First of all, since it’s really all about diet and exercise, download my free “get ripped” ebook. It’s loaded with great information you can use. As for supplements, go with Nitrocut. It’s a non-stimulant pre-workout, and at your age and with your stats, that’s all you need.
Rob,
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I ordered these products with the intention of using them for a few days to test them out and cancel/return the product. In the fine print it says you are allowed to return the bottle empty, so would it be alright to keep the product and send back the bottles?
I havent tried them yet, they are in route.
Theoretically that’s fine. But you might want to check with the company when you call to cancel, just to make sure.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Found out once you order max shred they send you a email in which they say if you continue to keep the product after the trial period they charge you and send you the product every month. I rang em pretty much after 15 minutes after placing the order and cancelled.
Hope they dont charge any more.
Your site is great and thanks for all the tips.
Can you please advise what combo would be the best for a 3-4 day workout routine in a week if I was gonna use Nitrocut, Muscle Advance Creatine Testofuel.
Am 34, 5’7 and weight 74 kgs.
Regards,
Jacob.
Yeah, it’s pretty incredible what they get away with, isn’t it? Glad you figured it out in time.
Hey, if you like the site, you can help us out by liking us on Facebook and telling your friends!
As for your supplement routine, are you trying to bulk up?
Are you looking to get lean and ripped? Let me know what your goals are, and I’ll help you out.
In the meantime, download my free “get ripped” ebook for diet and exercise tips.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Rob
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Make sure you’ve canceled with them, or the charges will keep coming!
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I have also just received my trials of Max Shred and Dear Antler and took my first doses today.
I was actually aware of the small print before ordering but done so with the intention I would cancel within the 14 days (as a have no intention in paying £150 for them!).
I’m now wondering, do I continue to try this for a week or so seeing as I have paid my delivery?
Or just cut my losses and send them back now?
Thanks.
I would call them right away and find out directly from them exactly when you have to send the bottles back in order to not be charged. That way, you’re not guessing.
You’ll know. In the mean time, go ahead and take them.
I’m pretty sure you’ll find they’re not worth the money.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
I am suggested to try “Marked Nutrition” products. Do you suggest them?
I’m glad you like our site. Feel free to tell your friends and like us on Facebook!
I haven’t tried any of the Marked Nutrition products myself, but I have seen that they get good feedback on the bodybuilding forums, so they would be a solid bet.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Secondly, I wanted to ask for your advices on any type of supplement that I can take to pack up some muscle.
I am 30 years old about 5’9 and weight about 160 lbs.
Thank you,
Ryan
Glad I could help. Feel free to like us on Facebook! As for muscle building supplements, you’d do well with a stack of Nitrocut and Muscle Advance Creatine. You should also use a protein shake, like 100% Whey Gold Standard from Optimum Nutrition, and download my free “get ripped” ebook for tons of tips on diet and exercise. Best of luck to you, Ryan!
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Haven’t opened either bottle yet. Hopefully they won’t charge me.
Again thanks bro.
How do I cancel both orders before its to late?
Don’t feel too bad. It happens to the best of us.
As soon as you receive the products, call the customer service numbers listed either on the website or in your packaging, and tell them you are not interested in continuing to receive their products. You may have to return the bottles you received to avoid being charged for them. (Some of these companies make you return the remaining product, while some don’t).
If you don’t receive anything before time is up (14 days most likely), call them and cancel anyway. If you don’t, they will surely charge you.
Good luck. Hopefully you’ll be on top of things early enough that there won’t be a problem.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Didn’t use product right away so 2nd shipment arrived, Now I have 2 Full bottles of each with 0
chance of refund…Beware!!!!
I have to say, I don’t know if its one product or the combination of the two, but it only took less than a week and I noticed a significant increase in the number of reps I could do during my workout sessions. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to keep up a regular workout schedule since I’ve gotten the products, but it did seem that if used regularly, the potential was there to see the gains I was looking for – strength & muscle mass.
Just my limited experience since using the products.
Luckly enough, I decided to go to the second page on Google for the FIRST time ever and see your article! So my question now is..even though its a scam does the deer spray actually work?
And could it stack with NitroCut?
That’s the million dollar question. Most reputable studies find no real muscle building benefit from using deer antler spray, but some other – less reputable – ones say there may be slight gains in muscle. So the best answer I can give you to the question of whether or not it works is… probably not. But if you’re still interested in stacking with Nitrocut, that would be fine.
Rob
SupplementCritique.com
Get some tested pre and post workout supplements and workout like crazy.