Bathmate Vs. Phallosan Forte, Size Genetics, and X4 Labs
By: Rob MillerIf you’ve been searching the internet for male enhancement products for any length of time, then you no doubt have been overwhelmed at the sheer volume of products out there promising insane gains in penis length and girth.
The vast majority of sites are pushing pills, which from my experience have NOT producedany significant AND permanent gains.
This is why when guys come to me asking what the best product is for enlargement, I typically steer them towards either a pump or an extender.
I’ve personally tested dozens of pumps and extenders, including 2 versions of the Bathmate, the Phallosan Forte, the Size Genetics device, and theX4 Labs Extender.
The purpose of this post is to give you an idea as to the differences (and similarities) between each, and help you decide which one may be right for you.
First off, let’s talk a bit about each so you can get an understanding of how they work.
Note: ALL of these products are shipped discreetly. I know this because I’ve bought all of them.
I figured I’d point that out right off the bat, because I KNOW guys will be asking me this 🙂
Contents
What is the Bathmate?What is The Phallosan Forte?
What is The Size Genetics Extender?
What is the X4 Labs Extender?
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Bathmate Vs. Phallosan ForteBathmate Vs. Size Genetics
Bathmate Vs. X4 Labs Extender
What is The Bathmate?
The Bathmate is a medically approved, doctor recommended class 2 medical device.
The corpora cavernosa is basically what makes the penis erect when your stimulated sexually, and all of the products we’re going to talk about in this article have some sort of influence on it’s size.
Bathmate has a GREAT video explaining exactly how it works, check it out below:
Note:if you can’t watch it because you’re at work or something, I have a detailed description in writing of how it works here.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOSJv2zZ6D4]
How Long Until I Can Expect Results?
With consistent use, you can expect to gain about 2 – 3 inches in girth and 1 inch in length after about 6 months.
This claim is supported by the fact that an April 2020 survey indicated that most Bathmate users saw size gains after 2 months of usage.
I personally have used the Bathmate in the past and gained about 1 inch in girth and 0.5 inches in length.
This was just after 1 MONTH of daily pumping, you WILL see better gains if you use it for longer.
Where To Buy?
I personally recommend that should you decide to order the Bathmate, you order it from their official website www.OfficialHydromaxPump.com.
However, Be WARY of Fakes
Due to it’s ever increasing popularity, there are literally DOZENS of knockoffs of the Bathmate being sold in sites like Amazon and eBay.
While generally cheaper than the official Bathmate website, these cheap knockoffs break VERY easily, and are not covered by the manufacturers warranty.
So if it breaks and you did NOT buy it from the official site, you’re shit out of luck…
Fake versions of the Bathmate tend to have poor construction, and you’ll see a metal spring at the top of them.
The REAL Bathmate is owned and operated by a company called DX Products a British company.
One other pump you may want to consider is the Penomet. It’s actually really similar to the Bathmate, but there are a few minor differences.
Check out our Penomet Vs. Bathmate article to learn more.
What is The Phallosan Forte?
The Phallosan Forte is a clinically tested and approved device that has been shown to help give enlargement and enhancement gains, fix IPP / Penis curvature issues, and help men who have had prostate surgery in the past.
For all intents and purposes, it’s basically an extender that basically stretches the penis to make it longer. A typical before and after picture looks like this:
Unlike extenders like Size Genetics, the Phallosan Forte uses a VERY comfortable suction condom which you strap to the head of your penis and attach to a belt-like device that you then use to pull the penis away from it’s base.
Here’s a simple demonstration video showing how to put it on (again, NSFW):
Where To Buy?
The Phallosan Forte is made by a company called Swiss Sana Ansalt, a Swiss company.
Here’s a link to their site: www.Phallosan.com
What is The Size Genetics Device?
The Size Genetics device is another extender that works similarly to the Phallosan Forte, but with some notable differences which we will note a bit later on.
It works by using the principle of traction, which essentially stretches the penis, dividing the cell walls and allowing for increased length.
The below video does a pretty good job of explaining what it is and how it works:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdb51JNmV3A]
Size Genetics is owned and operated by a company called DanaMedic, a Danish company.
I’ve personally used the Size Genetics device in the past, with some pretty decent results. Click here to read my full review.
Where To Buy?
Sizegenetics is owned and operated by DanaMedic, a Dutch company.
Here’s a link to their website: www.SizeGenetics.com
What is the X4 Labs Extender?
Update!As of December 2020, X4 Labs is actually no longer in business.
I’ve kept the below information in this article for reference purposes only.
The X4 Labs extender is virtually identical to that of the Size Genetics device, with a few key differences which we will talk about later. Using the principle of traction, the X4 Labs extender is used for not only increasing length, but also acts as a very effective penile straightening device.
In fact, they have a model that was specifically designed to fight penile curvature, or Peyronies disease as it’s often referred as. This model can help straighten out your penis in as little as 3 months, as demonstrated in the picture below:
Here’s a quick video demonstrating how the X4 Labs extender works (note, you need to sign in to youtube to view it):
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuERAJulj8U]
I’ve also used the X4 Labs extender in the past, albeit not for a very long time.
The purpose of my test was to see how easy it was to put on, and how comfortable it is.
The X4 Labs extender is owned and operated by X4 Labs Inc., a Canadian company.
Bathmate Vs. Phallosan Forte
If you read any of the above, you’ll see that there are some major differences between the Bathmate vs. Phallosan Forte.
Apart from one being a pump and the other being an extender, there are some other notable differences that should be addressed.
Price Differences
The Bathmate ranges in price from as low as $110 for the original version to as much as $350 for the Xtreme Series X50.
The Phallosan Forte on the other hand sells for a flat $339, which includes the cost of shipping.
Money Back Guarantee / Warranty Differences
With the Phallosan Forte, you essentially have 14 days to return the product if there’s something wrong with it. You can’t just return it if it’s not working for you.
With the Bathmate, their pumps are covered by a 12 month warranty, but it should be noted that you need to fill out their warranty form to take advantage of this.
On top of this warranty, Bathmate also offers a full 60 day guarantee.
In simple terms, if you are not happy with your results in any way, shape or form, you can return the device for a full refund.
To qualify for the 60 day money back guarantee, you need to buy directly from the Bathmate website here.
This takes the risk right out of the equation, and is one of the main reasons why I prefer the Bathmate over the Phallosan Forte.
Which One Works Better?
In all honesty, they BOTH work great, but again it really depends on your goals.
If you’re looking for length gains, you’ll get them with both the Phallosan Forte AND the Bathmate, although they will be much more pronounced with the Phallosan Forte.
If you’re looking for girth gains, you will basically ONLY get them with the Bathmate, and in some cases you may actually LOSE a bit of girth from using an extender like the Phallosan Forte.
If you want both length AND girth, then I would suggest you go with BOTH of them, OR just go with the Bathmate.
Here’s links to each of their sites:
Bathmate: www.OfficialHydromaxPump.com
Phallosan Forte: www.Phallosan.com
One notable advantage to the Phallosan Forte
Unlike a pump like the Bathmate, or even an extender device like Size Genetics, the Phallosan Forte extender CAN be worn at night.
This is a HUGE advantage, because unlike the other products on this page, you can literally grow your penis overnight.
Bathmate Vs. Size Genetics
As noted above, the Size Genetics device is an extender, and the Bathmate is a water based pump. Apart from this, there are some other big differences between the 2.
Price
Compared to the Bathmate, SizeGenetics is very expensive. Their cheapest model (the basic device, no extras) sells for close to $200, and their most advanced model, the Ultimate System, retails at $398.95.
Effectiveness
Unlike the Bathmate, which can give you results after literally your first pump, you’ll be waiting quite a long time before seeing any results from the Size Genetics device.
How long?
Well, that depends on a lot of factors, including:
- How man hours per day you wear it for.
- The tension
- Your own individual penile anatomy.
Typically you’ll see the best results with the Size Genetics device after 6 months of wearing it, and some have reported size gains of as much as 2 inches at the end of this period.
With the Bathmate, you can see girth gains of as much as 0.5 inches after your first pump, although it should be noted that it does take a few months for this effect to become permanent.
Plenty of other users have attested to this, and many responded to an April 2020 survey asking whether or not they saw size gains.
The vast majority in that survey reported that they indeed did see size gains after 2 months of use.
Comfort
In the comfort department, there’s really no comparison.
One of the biggest downsides with the Size Genetics device is that, if tighten the noose at the end too tight, it can cut off blood circulation to the penis head.
Within about 1 hour, the end of your penis will basically feel numb, which can be kind of scary if you’re not expecting it.
There’s plenty of anecdotal stories mentioning this, and it’s one of the unfortunate side effects of the Size Genetics extender.
With the Bathmate, it’s SUPER comfortable and you don’t have any side effects like this.
If you are wary of potential negative side effects of using one of these options, then the Bathmate might be a good option for you.
Product Guarantee
The one upside to the Size Genetics device is their guarantee. According to their official website, you are entitled to a 120 day guarantee if the device doesn’t work for you.
The only stipulation is that you provide some proof in the form of before and after pics, and a log showing how long and number of hours you wore the device.
Which one should I buy?
Just like with the Bathmate Vs. Phallosan Forte comparison, this all depends on your own personal goals.
If you want length, go with the Size Genetics device.
If you want girth, go with the Bathmate.
If you want both, go with both. (assuming you can afford it, this stuff ain’t cheap!)
If money is tight, I would recommend the Bathmate. It’s cheaper and will still give you length gains, albeit not as pronounced.
Here’s links to each of their sites:
Bathmate: www.OfficialHydromaxPump.com
Size Genetics:www.SizeGenetics.com
Bathmate Vs. X4 Labs Extender
As noted above, the Bathmate is a pump and the X4 Labs is an extender, so many of the same differences between them is basically the same as that of the Bathmate Vs. Size Genetics.
Some of the major differences between these 2 in particular include:
Price
Just like with the Bathmate, the X4 Labs extender comes with a few different versions of their product:
- The Anniversary Ultra (their most expensive) which retails at $225
- Gold Luxury version which retails at $195
- Extreme Premium edition which sells for $199
- Premium version which sells for $95
- deluxe edition which sells for $75
Starting from top to bottom, you’re basically getting less and less “extras” included with the basic X4 Labs device.
Results
Similarly to the Size Genetics device, with the X4 Labs you can expect to see more LENGTH gains, as opposed to girth gains you would get with the Bathmate.
Comfort
In my personal opinion (and this comes from extensively testing both), I think the Bathmate is WAY more comfortable then the X4 Labs extender.
With the X4 Labs extender, you’re basically tugging on the penis all day, and it can be quite uncomfortable after wearing it for a few hours.
This is not the case with the Bathmate. With the Bathmate, it’s more of a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Return Policy
With the Bathmate, you can return it any time for any reason within 60 days if you feel it’s not working for you. (assuming you buy directly from the Bathmate website here.)
With the X4 Labs, it’s a bit more complicated than that…
For example, X4 Labs offers a one year money back guarantee, which is actually one of the best in the industry.
However, this comes with all sort of conditions. For example:
- You have to use the X4 Labs for a MINIMUM of 180 days (6 months) before you can submit a request for a refund.In order for you to prove that you’ve used it for at least 6 months, you have to document your progress in their “Penile Traction Therapy Progress Tracker online tool”.
You are required to make 180 entries into this tool in order for them to see that you’ve been wearing it.
I can tell you from experience, it’s not very easy to do this EVERY SINGLE DAY. It takes some commitment to do this, which many guys simply don’t have. - You have to not see ANY positive results in those 180 days.
What this basically means that if you even grow just 1 mm in length, that is considered a “positive” result. - You’re also responsible for the return shipment charges.
With the Bathmate it’s as simple as sending them an email or calling them and telling them you don’t want it anymore.
So out of all of these, which one should I get?
The answer to this question really depends on what your goals are. If you’re looking to gain length, then without question you should go with the Phallosan Forte.
It’s much more comfortable than any of the other extenders listed on this page, and I’ve personally used it with great results.
If you’re looking to gain girth, then the Bathmate would be right for you.
While it’s similar to most other water based pumps out there like the Penomet, the quality and results I got from it were far superior to that of any other pump I’ve tested.
It’s also a lot easier to use the Bathmate Vs. the Penomet because changing out the gaiters can be a real pain in the ass sometimes.
Can you use the Bathmate and Phallosan Forte at the same time?
A lot of guys have asked me whether or not they can use both the Bathmate AND the Phallosan Forte at the same time, and the answer is a resounding YES.
In fact, if you can afford it I would highly recommend doing so.
The way I would do it is like this:
Order both the Bathmate and Phallosan Forte from their respective official websites, here’s a couple of links:
Bathmate – www.OfficialHydromaxPump.com
Phallosan Forte – www.Phallosan.com
After you get both of them, start using the Bathmate FIRST for a period of 1 – 2 weeks.
Once you’ve gotten used to pumping then you should SLOWLY start introducing the use of the Phallosan Forte.
I would start off using it for just an hour or two per day until you can get used to it.
As far as a schedule, I would structure it as follows:
- Week 1 – 2: Pump with the Bathmate for 10 – 15 min. per day, everyday, broken down as follows: Pump for 2-3 min., followed by a 2 min. massage.
Repeat a max of 2 times per session, and don’t exceed 15 min. of pumping in a 24 hr. period.
You should also avoid pumping with an erection. - Weeks 2 – 4: Continue pumping with the Bathmate everyday via the instructions above, and start wearing the Phallosan Forte for 1 – 2 hours a day.
- Weeks 4 – 8: Continue pumping with the Bathmate via the instructions above, and wear the Phallosan Forte for 4 – 6 hours per day.
I’ve recommended this to plenty of guys in the past, and it seems like the best regiment out there.
Sticking to the right regiment is essentially the best way to ensure that your hard work will pay off.
Hope this helps and let me know if you have any questions by leaving a comment below!
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As long as you do it correctly, you won’t hurt your penis. If you start to feel sore, cut back and adjust your use down until you feel better.
If i use Phallosan (5 to 6 hours per day)and bathmate everyday, will it be right to make a break one day per week??
Thanks for your job!
You could, but it’ll take longer to see results.